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Law School Applications / Re: University of Denver
« on: July 27, 2008, 09:20:41 PM »
yes, i know it. . .but i won't post it.  pm me and i'll give it to you.  or, you can email/call lauri, julie, or wait til orientation.

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Law School Applications / Re: University of Denver
« on: July 27, 2008, 02:34:19 PM »
Book options on campus: DU Bookstore in Driscoll (building in front of the law school) or the SBA bookstore
Off campus: amazon, half, etc

1st semester 1L year, I got all my books at the bookstore.  After realizing I didn't need brand new books, I never went back (other than for a car decal & sweatshirt).

The book list is usually on the advanced assignment page (under registrar, course info).  OR. . .you can go to the du bookstore website and check to see if the booklist is updated (you have to know your course # & prof name).

You're ganna buy your book now?  WHY?  Understandably (is that even a word?) you are excited but you still have plenty of time to purchase books before classes.  You have 3 weeks or so til orientation?  TAKE ADVANTAGE!!  Go buy/borrow/steal some FUN/NON Law books and read away because you won't have time once classes start.

**This message brought to you by a 3L who spent 3 hours and $60 at B&N buying fun/non law books today. ;D

Yeah, not the reason I was asking. I didn't want to get a jump start on the reading, I want to get the online so I can save money. I wanted to find the best deal and still get them in time to have them on the first day of class.

Don't worry, I am doing nothing right now. Well, I am moving to Denver on the first, so I am doing a lot of stuff to get ready to move my family there, but other than that I am have no scholastic pursuits at the moment.

By the way, I read on DU's website that the light rail pass is only good at certain stops in Denver. My wife and I are moving to Sante Fe/Mineral and I was wondering if I will be able to take the light rail for free from that far away?

Yes.  You'll get a sticker to put on your ID that is good for any stop/train/bus. . .not that anyone really checks anyway.

Good luck with your move!

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Law School Applications / Re: University of Denver
« on: July 25, 2008, 10:30:22 PM »
Book options on campus: DU Bookstore in Driscoll (building in front of the law school) or the SBA bookstore
Off campus: amazon, half, etc

1st semester 1L year, I got all my books at the bookstore.  After realizing I didn't need brand new books, I never went back (other than for a car decal & sweatshirt).

The book list is usually on the advanced assignment page (under registrar, course info).  OR. . .you can go to the du bookstore website and check to see if the booklist is updated (you have to know your course # & prof name).

You're ganna buy your book now?  WHY?  Understandably (is that even a word?) you are excited but you still have plenty of time to purchase books before classes.  You have 3 weeks or so til orientation?  TAKE ADVANTAGE!!  Go buy/borrow/steal some FUN/NON Law books and read away because you won't have time once classes start.

**This message brought to you by a 3L who spent 3 hours and $60 at B&N buying fun/non law books today. ;D

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Law School Applications / Re: University of Denver
« on: July 23, 2008, 05:56:37 PM »
I received my schedule also, well it isn't actually a schedule, it is just a list of classes and who is teaching them. I wish it had time but it does not. Here is the list:

Torts- no teacher
Civil Procedure- Katharine DuVivier
Criminal Law- Sam Kamin
Lawyering Process I- Tanya Brown

What do you think? Is there a place where I can see what times these classes are at? I have clicked on every schedule link but to no avail.

KK is really nice but so boring.  As if civ pro wasn't bad enough, her soft spoken voice and lectures will put you right to sleep.  Her final is a typing test. . .whoever types the fastest wins.  She has a midterm (which virtually doesn't count so it's a nice practice test).  Again, I suggest checking out the faculty evals. . .under the registrar's page.

For the schedule of classes, try this:
http://law.du.edu/forms/registrar/class-schedules/output_schedules.cfm?ID=Fall%202008

http://law.du.edu/index.php/registrar/class-schedules

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Law School Applications / Re: University of Denver
« on: July 16, 2008, 09:31:10 PM »
Hardaway: Even if you hate his class (though most seem like him after you get over the teaching style), you'll love his annual Halloween party.  He is an expert in many areas including transportation law, criminal law, etc.  Didn't have him but met him on a few occassions. . .definitely unique & will never remember your name (as you'll soon find out).

Miccio: Personally, she scares me. . .but as Matthies said, she is love or hate.  She's really really big on feminism, gay rights, and everything NY (including the Yankees).

Thompson: Dunno. . .but LP is LP. . .I personally don't think it matters who you have.  They are all about the same.

Pepper:  My 1L year, my torts section was divided into two, and the other half of my section had Pepper. . .most hated him.  His big area in law is ethics/legal profession.

On another note, I suggest checking out the professor evals online.  They are under the registrar page, faculty evaluations. . .I think you have to email Lauri or Julie to get the password (there should be an instruction on who to email on that page).

Anyone volunteering at orientation this year?

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Law School Applications / Re: University of Denver
« on: May 10, 2008, 01:30:14 AM »
I am getting pretty excited to come out. This summer is the first time in two years I will not be attending school so I am going to soak up all the free time I have, as I am only working 40 hours a week. It is amazing how working and going to school can make working only 40 hours a week feel like a vacation.

How did finals go. I would be very interested to see a final exam that a professor has administered. Does anyone have one? Clearly I mean an example one that teachers give out, not a stolen copy :) Also, are there any books that show example exams in law school? It would be a good summer read.

Now's probably not the best time to ask how finals are going.  In one word, I am EXHAUSTED.

Sample finals are available if you can log onto the law library website.  I think you can also google for some.  But as far as an example of ones I've taken, I don't have any.  They make us turn it in at the end of finals or make us destroy them (if it's a take home).

There are tons of books with example exams. . .Examples & Explanations, Emmanuels, Gilberts, just to name a few.  I know you're not going to listen to this advice but I would NOT read or worry about learning the law over the summer.  You'll get your fair share over the semester.  It doesn't help once school starts anyway because your professor might not even cover what you read.  I know you are excited about law school and might want to get a head start but honestly, taking a break & reading/doing something for fun probably will help more.  If you HAVE to read something law related, books like Getting to Maybe, Guerrilla Tactics to Getting the Legal Job of Your Dreams, Law School Confidential, etc.

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Law School Applications / Re: University of Denver
« on: May 10, 2008, 01:13:19 AM »
Question for one of the current students:  Do you part in the law lot?  Is it pretty easy to get a parking pass?  The website said that passes go on sale on May 20.  Thoughts?


Buy it the day it comes out, or else you might be put on the waiting list, it gets sold out fast. Well worth it in crapp weather becuase its attached to the building.

My first year, I bought it during orientation.  The garage is SO convenient. . .except I stil don't understand why we can park on every floor except the one with direct access to the entrance.  Anyway, I would highly recommend buying it.

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Law School Applications / Re: University of Denver
« on: May 10, 2008, 01:10:31 AM »
I am getting pretty excited to come out. This summer is the first time in two years I will not be attending school so I am going to soak up all the free time I have, as I am only working 40 hours a week. It is amazing how working and going to school can make working only 40 hours a week feel like a vacation.

How did finals go. I would be very interested to see a final exam that a professor has administered. Does anyone have one? Clearly I mean an example one that teachers give out, not a stolen copy :) Also, are there any books that show example exams in law school? It would be a good summer read.

I think Gaylord is east of the school, near the off campus frat houses, maybe you will get cat-called on your way to school Ash  :P. Should not be a bad walk, so long as its not a blizzard. Buy some good snow proof walking shoes/boots


well we got our apt assigned, its in cavalier over on gaylord st...supposedly walking distance from law school.  i HAVE to lose this muffin top   :P

Exams just started they don't end til the 15th, so we are in the thick of it now :)



one can always hope!  i may even learn how to quote posts correctly  :P

I had friends who lived in cavalier last year. . .it's a typical on campus style apt complex not far from campus.  I wouldn't go as far as to say it's ON campus but it's on the very edge if that makes sense.  It definitely is walking/biking distance.

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Law School Applications / Re: University of Denver
« on: April 29, 2008, 01:30:15 PM »
Ok I think I procrastinated enough for one day.  Good luck on finals Matthies, Cesco, & all the other law students/undergrads!  :)

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Law School Applications / Re: University of Denver
« on: April 29, 2008, 01:29:05 PM »
I visited DU a couple weeks ago. I really like the school and absolutely loved the city. However, I'm having a hard time deciding between American University and DU.

AU is one of the most expensive schools in the country. I can allay some of those costs by living at home, but that would suck, and I'd still come out with well over 110k in debt. However, AU is known for its International Law program, which is what I want to study.

DU offered me a great scholarship and I really feel like I could be more competitive there. There are ample opportunities in the city and I loved the laid back vibe of life out by the mountains. I was told that the class size would be reduced to around 200 students from the upper 300's, but I wasn't offered any sort of guarantee on that. I feel like this would almost be a deal breaker. I'd like to go to a school with a smaller class size and a better faculty/student ratio. Can anyone confirm that this is actually happening or is admissions using this as a tool to lure people in?


The dean sent out an email a few weeks ago about ranking and mentioned that the class was going to be smaller, I canít remember if he said it was for this coming year or next, but if thatís what you were told maybe its for this years incoming class. Even then 300 would be for the day AND evening divisions, not just for the day. Our evening divisions was like 92 students. Plus your divided into like 60-70 person class sections out of the 200 day students (all night students are in one section).

I would NOT put much stock into thinking you would be more competitive at DU than AU, if you think that based on LSAT score. First and foremost its been my experience in real life there is not a very good correlation between LSAT and actual performance, not enough to give any credence to think you would do better at one school than another. Second it seems, again from personal experience, the more one prepped for the LSAT the lower the actual correlation is. Finally, it would be unwise to think that everyone who comes to DU came there as the highest ranked school they could get into. The vast majority of my classmates only applied to CO schools, even if their numbers where high enough to get them into better schools, because they did not want to leave the state.

In the end my advice would be go to the school and you think you will enjoy the most. DU has a good international program, but it does not likely make up for being in D.C. for the types of internships you could get. But you may change your focus anyway once you get in law school. So go to the school you think you will enjoy most for 3 years and is where you want to live after school. Good luck with your decision.


I didn't mean I'd be more competitive because DU isn't a good school. I meant more competitive for reviews and journals 1) because the class size would be significantly smaller and 2) I would be more competitive in the job market in Denver with a DU degree (arguably the 2nd best school in region, depending on who you ask) than I would be in the DC market with an AU degree (arguably 4th best school in region, depending on who you ask).

Go to the school in the region where you want to live/work after law school.  DU is a good school but if you want to stay in the DC area, AU would be a smarter, easier choice.  Because both schools are "regional" schools, law firms/attorneys are bias towards the students in area schools (bigger alumni base, regional office OCI, clercking during school year, tc).  Besides, it is easier to network with people when you are already there. . .networking is HUGE.  You have a tough decision ahead of you. . .but it is a good place to be.  Good luck!

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