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Yes, you've all definitely caught on that I probably give a little too much importance to the LSAT.  My logic was totally not backed up by any real-world experience... pretty much drawing assumptions about where my LSAT score places me.  For example, that there'd be some difference I'd notice between a place where my score is higher than the 75%-tile, vs. a place where my score was the median.  (These are the choices I'm looking at.)

There are definitely a lot of soft factors and culture that will come into play, I'm sure.

by the way, your class rank will be arbitrary as well, so don't assume you will automatically do better at the lower-ranked school.

I'm catching on to this as well.  And trying to learn what I can about what is required to succeed.

Current Law Students / Re: Godd**mn grades
« on: June 16, 2006, 08:37:26 PM »
Everytime I come out of an exam or hand in a paper and believe that I have totally bombed it, I have gotten an A. Conversely, everytime I think that I have nailed a paper or exam, I have gotten either a B- or C+.

Pretty soon, I am not going to study at all and go into a exam cold just to see if my streak continues.

Ok, so there have been several posts like this - it sounds like it's definitely a phenomenon.  But no one's tried to explain this.

For you all that this has happened to - what did you find out after looking at your marked up exams, or talking to the profs?  Was it a matter of studying the wrong way?  The wrong material?  Or perhaps unclear instructions or teaching?

Lewis and Clark / L&C Visit
« on: June 16, 2006, 07:22:36 PM »
Hi all.  I've written up a little bit about my visit to L&C here:,65383.0.html

Lewis and Clark / Re: attending
« on: June 16, 2006, 07:21:26 PM »
Having never been to South Dakota...

University of San Diego.   :)

I'm researching law schools, and it looks like there's a dilemma that most applicants face:

* You can look for a challenging academic atmosphere; a student body with people who are also on your level (and maybe for once in your life!), where there are discussions that will be thought-provoking, etc.  But in this case, you're probably at the median of the student body.  Possibly your class rank will be median as well. (?)


* You can go to a school where you're well above the median (for example, LSAT-wise), where you'll be more assured of a good class-ranking, and where you'll probably be given more money for attending.  This will help ensure a more solid financial future (maybe), but it might also mean a less stimulating environment, and fewer peers.

So I ask you, law school students - is this a false dilemma?  Or did you face it?  What decision did you make?  And finally, looking back, are you happy with your decision?


Lewis and Clark / Re: attending
« on: June 14, 2006, 02:26:28 AM »
I love it at L&C so far, but it's the only school I applied to so it's tough to say how it compares to other law schools.

Wow, that's something else.  You're pretty brave, only applying to one school!  Are you from Portland?

Also - how would you describe the student body;  Politically active?  SE hippy activist types?  NW conservative preppies?  Varied backgrounds?  Interests outside of school?

Like I said, I live in NE Portland because I really like the variety.  I was thinking of going to Univ of SD but heard that the student body is very homogenous - white, young, relatively inexperienced, somewhat conservative.

Thanks so much!

Lewis and Clark / L&C: A good experience?
« on: May 28, 2006, 01:52:39 AM »
I hear great things about L&C law school, and the material they send out is very good.  As is the law library's web site with podcasts and more.

The US News ranking has it listed with a somewhat poor 'peer review' score: 2.3 out of 5.  That's got me a bit worried - I'm not sure what to make of it.

Thanks for any input!

Lewis and Clark / Re: attending
« on: May 28, 2006, 01:48:16 AM »
i wonder what effect this curve (less than a 'B') has on graduate employment prospects?  this might be why so many of their grads end up taking low paying gov't and county prosecutor/pd jobs. 

I'm guessing that's not the case - because for those in schools with harder curves, you could just focus on your class rank instead, which isn't affected.  Just guessing, though.

Lewis and Clark / Re: attending
« on: May 28, 2006, 12:52:51 AM »
I think each prof can set it to whatever they want as long as it's under a B.

Hi.  I'm seriously thinking of going to L&C.  I've lived in Portland for 5 years, on the East Side.

I've never been in a school with an imposed curve like this.  Does it produce weird competitive behavior in the students?  I've heard that L&C is a pretty friendly and supportive environment amongst the students.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Lewis and Clark or California Schools?
« on: February 25, 2007, 04:38:33 PM »
Just adding my two cents:  I've lived in Portland 5 years, and L&C is the only law school I've applied to. 

It was my only choice anyhow outside of a T14. 

But now I've also decided that staying in Portland, living here, keeping my roots, is important enough to only consider L&C.

I'm know a lot of L&C people.

Here's some info about it:

* Very liberal - which I love.
* Very dog friendly.  Admins or profs bring their dogs, students too, on occasion.
* Portland is a way freaking liberal town.  That's why I'm here. :-)  It's unfortunately not extremely diverse - racially, as well as some certain subcultures.  (For example, the gay scene may be 'balanced' in SF, but here in PDX there are relatively a lot more gay women.)

To reply to an earlier sentiment - Portland can feel like a very big town, or very small town, depending on what you're used to.

(I've lived in NYC as well as tiny places.)

Personally, for me, it's "big town" enough:  There are so many coffeeshops, music venues, bars, events, etc that I can't keep up (although, Lord I've tried.)  So, for me, that pretty much meets my personal criteria for "big enough".

Take a trip up here, and see for yourself...

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