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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Civil disobedience and the age of consent
« on: February 26, 2012, 09:32:01 AM »

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Civil disobedience and the age of consent
« on: November 14, 2011, 09:00:37 AM »
Thank you for your replies everyone.

Sex between a 15 and 18 year old is different than underage sex between a 40 - 50 year old and a 15 year old.

Why? Its the same act with the same risks.

  Does it mean a 14 year old can consent to sex because they can be convicted as an adult for murder?   

If they can be convicted of murder they must understand the implication of their actions, therefore they must understand and be able to consent to sex.

when I was a teenager I never looked at guys over 25 as a potential love interest.

You obviously haven't herd the expression 'MILF'. Many young people find people in their 30's and 40's attractive.

is the person trying to gain trust of the underaged person just to hurt them later on?

Why would they have sinister intentions? Cant they find someone underage attractive or love them? Do you always suspect the worst of people?

There is a predatory nature to pedophelia

Don't be silly. In fact it's not uncommon for persons underage to proposition adults! I notice you're a woman Cher1300, it's understandable that you get hysterical over this subject.

Society must think there is harm otherwise why would that be the only crime where we track them like tagged animals for the rest of their lives?

Society onece thought homosexuality and the emancipation of black people from slavery were harmful. Society obviously doesn't feel the need to justify it's prejudices.

General Off-Topic Board / Civil disobedience and the age of consent
« on: November 11, 2011, 09:57:14 AM »
Throughout history there have been unjust laws, such as persecution on the grounds of skin color, sexuality or religion. These laws were unjust because there was no justification for their existence, other than blind hatred and ignorance. When people disobey these unjust laws it is called civil disobedience.

Age of consent laws vary across the world, from 18 in the USA to 14 in Italy. Clearly there is no consensus in regard to what age one becomes capable of consenting to sex, or at what age sex ceases to be a harmful activity. There is no universal age of consent, yet the law imposes absolutist age based restrictions on sexual activity. Actions must be proven to be harmful in some way in order for them to be illegal, yet there is no evidence suggesting sex with persons under the age of consent is harmful. For example much of the research only looks at individuals admitted to psychiatric hospitals, disregarding the potentially higher number of unharmed individuals who experienced under age sex.

Adding to the complexity of the issue is the role of adults in the lives of persons under the age of consent. For example there is no law preventing parents feeding their children junk food resulting in obesity. Another issue is that of criminal responsibility, it's not uncommon for persons under the age of consent to be tried as an adult - this implies persons under the age of consent can understand the implications of their actions. Finally there are different ages at which one can drive, serve in the army and drink alcohol - all adding to the inconsistency of age based laws. Martin Luther King said "one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws".

My question is this:

Is it civil disobedience when an adult has sex with a person under the age of consent providing there is no evidence of harm?

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