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I don't want to get into this argument, but I will say bruinbor's #4 is correct.
Yes, in fact, bruinbro may have been underestimating a bit.  Once you have a law degree it doesn't make any difference.  The only people who will still try to talk about their UG is those who went the IVY BA then less prestigious JD route.  Argo's comments may make me question the intelligence of the Wharton grads we (the hiring committee at my office) interview...  Eh, probably he just hasn't pulled his head out of his Wharton ass for long enough to realize, I'll give the other Penn kids a pass.

Thanks, guys, you convinced me.  My degree ain't worth sh!t and wharton ug is just a second-rate vocational school.  There is a general Penn hatred pervading these boards and I know where it's coming from.  It's thinly veiled and quite obvious. You and bruinbro should all be proud of yourselves - real winners  ;)  Good luck in the real world.

I don't think LSD has an anti-Penn bias per se. If anything, this board exhibits the opposite bias. In this case, you invited sharp comments when you unfairly minimized state schools and made an absurd allusion equating Penn to Harvard.

Nobody is saying your degree is worthless. Itís obviously not. People are merely pointing out that it has little value in law school admissions.

So, getting back to some of the original points, the school will be hiring the same kinds of professors who will be able to engage in the traditional scholarship on their area of expertise, as well as maybe some new stuff.

I doubt it. Unless they leave the third year teaching in the hands of adjuncts, the new focus on professionalism and practice will require that they hire a whole new set of "practice-oriented" professors. Either way, this will turn off elite faculty. It will also turn off elite faculty that they can only teach law electives to 2L's. As odd as it sounds, the most influential law professors are generally not interested in or familiar with "practice". They care about scholarship and academia.

Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: WUSTL and W&L
« on: March 11, 2008, 11:04:29 PM »
Without getting my head bitten off- W&L is in a really small, remote town. It is not for everyone

Not going to bite of your head, but your statement is somewhat misleading. Yes, Lexington is pretty small--somewhere between 5,000 and 7,000 people live here. I'm on a first name basis with the guy at the post office (his name is Skinny, which is quite an ironic nickname for him), I run into W&L students who I know EVERYWHERE that I go, and it can get a little old eating at Southern Inn (good restaurant in town) every weekend. That being said, Lexington is certainly not your average Southern small town. Lexington is very quaint and historic, and has many more things going on for it than most towns its size because of W&L and VMI. There are a lot of good sandwich places and restaurants in town, a few bars (I wouldn't mind a few more) and it really isn't that remote--Roanoke and Charlottesville are both within an hour's drive, and Richmond, Charlotte and DC are all within 3.5 hours. I grew up in Austin, a pretty large city in Texas known for its music scene and great local food, and I love it here. Like one of the earlier posters said, the benefits that come with living in Lexington greatly outweigh the negatives, especially for a law school experience. That being said, I agree that it's not for everyone. For someone who has lived in NYC their whole life, I'm sure the place can be somewhat of a culture shock. I had my reservations about the town, and everything changed when I visited during the ASW (which I highly recommend if you get the chance).

Most of the people at W&L agree with what you are saying. To be honest, I think it is nice to be in a place where you know the postman and have war history around you. My main point was that being in small rural town that is 3.5 to 4 hours away from a major city might be too isolated an environment for many people.

Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: NYU ASW
« on: March 11, 2008, 09:33:21 PM »
I was at the NYU day, but not the Columbia one (waitlist city).  Having come from Columbia undergrad I was a bit skeptical about NYU in general, despite rankings and the general consensus that it is an amazing school.  I came away from the ASW knowing that I'll be happy there.  Professors were amazing, including a discussion on international law with a couple of their top profs (Kingsbury, Alston) that got me pumped to take their classes.  Panel discussion with Marty Lipton, the managing partner at Cravath, senior partner at Simpson, etc. -  very intimidating group of alumni but a really cool insider's take on current issues in corporate governance.  Overall, people seemed down to earth and normal, which is a big factor for me.  Only downside - very long day (8:30 to 6 with no breaks).

What an awesome alumni panel

Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: WUSTL and W&L
« on: March 11, 2008, 09:32:18 PM »
Without getting my head bitten off- W&L is in a really small, remote town. It is not for everyone

Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Drexel ASD
« on: March 11, 2008, 09:31:23 PM »
Nice post

Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: WUSTL and W&L
« on: March 11, 2008, 09:17:06 PM »
Limegreen, I think you caught me at a bad time, and so I apologize in advance for the rant.  And please do not think that it is directed just at you.

I have a huge problem with the statement "I am afraid that Lexington is going to be too small for me."  I understand the general premise - Lexington is a small town and life in Lexington is certainly different than life in a larger city.  And I freely admit that there were times when I wanted to get out of town and go somewhere bigger (but, now that I live in a large city again, I often find myself wanting to get out of town and go somewhere different). 

But the statement always shows up in the context of "I really like the school and everything else, my only hangup is the size of Lexington - I'm scared its too small for me to bear."  To me, this statement assumes one of two things, neither of which are true.  The first possible assumption is that only country or small town folk go to W&L for law school, because those accustomed to larger city living simply can't bear it - this assumption is clearly false.  The second assumption is that there is something so unique to the speaker that makes them somehow different than the several thousand students who have come to Lexington from large cities and have lived to tell about it.  Although I can't say for certain, I suspect that this assumption is also false.

What is it that a small town lacks that would make living there for three years so unbearable?  And is it possible that you are being a bit unrealistic about your dire need for whatever that is?

Have you visited W&L and spoken with current students that came from a large city?  I suspect you will find that they are not too different from yourself and that they will be very honest with you.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't consider the lifestyle that a particular school might afford you when you are comparing schools - you clearly should.  And I'm not saying that W&L is the perfect school for everyone - it clearly isn't.  But if you like the school, I don't see how you can separate the school from its setting.  Just like part of the GW experience is DC, part of the W&l experience is Lexington.  I don't think one can say "I would definitely go to W&L if it were in a larger city" because then it wouldn't be W&L.  But I have seen that exact statement on this board many times and it absolutely perplexes me (limegreen, I'm not sure if you've ever expressed that sentiment - if not, I apologize).

Bottom line:  Visit W&L and talk to people.  And consider, just for a moment, that you could survive, and even enjoy, three years in a small town.  You have your whole life to live the big city life.           

I think you are freaking out a little. He was just asking whether W&L would be too small for him.

Based on pure LAYMAN'S prestige- having nothing to do with reality. By Layman, I mean your average soccer mom or mid-market dentist.


Where should I go next fall? / Re: State + Scholarship vs. T14
« on: March 11, 2008, 09:46:56 AM »

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Yale is something else
« on: March 11, 2008, 09:46:03 AM »
How many countries have you saved today?

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