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Current Law Students / Re: public speaking.
« on: April 14, 2006, 10:47:35 AM »
usually you will be called on at least once a semester in each class to give the facts of a case that was assigned for class.  this is similar to public speaking, I guess, except you just talk from your seat instead of the front of the room. 

Current Law Students / Re: Patent Law Interview Program
« on: April 14, 2006, 10:46:00 AM »

A registration deadline? I was not aware such a deadline existed now that the test is commercially available through Prometric. Am I wrong?

he was referring to the deadline for the interview program.  there is no deadline for the patent bar, though usually a prometric center in a given city will only offer it once or twice a month.  Once you apply to the USPTO, they will give you a 3 month deadline to take the test when your application is approved.  I had to travel to Gainesville because the last time Tallahassee offered it was two weeks before the end of my deadline, and I needed the extra two weeks.

Current Law Students / Re: Patent Law Interview Program
« on: April 13, 2006, 11:34:50 AM »
why exactly is there a seperate test for the patent bar but not for other areas of the law?  or am i just being stupid and there are other tests that i just dont know about.

The patent bar qualifies you to practice before the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO).  It is seperate from a state or federal jurisdiction.  Basically, you can draft patents and represent tech companies in securing IP rights.  Only people with technical backgrounds are allowed to sit for the exam.

Current Law Students / Re: Patent Law Interview Program
« on: April 13, 2006, 10:28:03 AM »
It was fairly hard.  I studied for 6 weeks and did 9 practice tests, passed the first time.  I would not be surprised if I only passed by a few points though.  I was able to get some free second-hand prep materials by Patent Resource Group (PRG).  They were a couple years old but I still thought they were OK. I also had just taken an IP class at law school, so I didn't have to spend much time on the basics.

The problem with the patent bar is that since they computerized it, they don't release the questions anymore.  It used to be that between 30-70% of the questions were from old tests, so you could get almost all of those right if you did all the old tests.  Well, they haven't released any tests since October 2003.  There are still some old questions on there, particularly from the October 2003 exam, but not as many.

Current Law Students / Re: Patent Law Interview Program
« on: April 13, 2006, 09:31:58 AM »
what is this program?  I would be interested since I passed the patent bar.  Now, if the USPTO would stop dragging their feet and get me my damn registration number, I could apply for positions as a patent agent!

Current Law Students / Re: Curve Question
« on: April 13, 2006, 08:12:46 AM »
A curve means the grades are forced into a profile the resembles the bell curve, with the majority of students landing near the average grade.  The curve you posted is extremely easy, 30% As is very high, so I wouldn't be too concerned. 

Current Law Students / Re: Abortion
« on: April 12, 2006, 08:25:45 PM »
I just want someone to name one single time that prohibition of something has improved the situation.

Current Law Students / Re: Abortion
« on: April 12, 2006, 04:59:22 PM »
You know, after seeing all of those pictures, it only makes my pro-choice beliefs stronger.  whoever posts *&^% like that is a screwed up whacko.

I could very well post some pictures of a woman performing an abortion on herself with a coat hanger, or a drunken delisenced doctor performing a third trimester abortion.  THOSE WOULD BE THE RESULTS OF BANNING ABORTION. 

Current Law Students / Re: poor lawyers
« on: April 12, 2006, 04:50:32 PM »
tis true

GW is gunnertopia


whast the story on the patent bar - i'm taking it this summer while also working as a judicial intern for a judge

can i realistically prepare for this thing while working also? the CDO told me that the test requires 200 hours of prep time, this strikes me as severe - is it really that hard? please gimme a heads up

I studied for 6 weeks and took 9 practice tests, passed on the first try.  The thing about the patent bar is that they are not releasing the old questions anymore. pre-2003 the test was on paper and the questions were released with the scores, 30-70% of the questions were always repeats.  Since they computerized the test, they don't release the questions, which makes it a lot harder.  I wouldn't be surprised if I barely passed.  My one piece of advice is to take the october 2003 exam last, a day or two before the real thing, I almost didn't take it because it had the lowest national pass rate of any of the tests that are available.  When I got to the test almost all of the repeats were from that exam, so I was really glad I did that one. 

Current Law Students / Re: Abortion
« on: April 12, 2006, 04:19:19 PM »
If someone can name me one time prohibition of anything has made the situation better, I will support pro-lifers.

prohibition of alcohol spurred the most violent organized crime in all of history

prohibition of drugs, particularly marijuana, has done nothing but lock nonviolent criminals up with longer sentences than rapists and murderers, flood the jails, and cost billions of dollars.  what percent of highschool students try illegal drugs?  I think it is like 40%. 

prohibition of firearms in England and Australia has led to skyrocketing violent crime rates.

No one is pro-abortion, everyone understands that it is a horrible thing.  If you make abortion illegal, you will give life long employment to every doctor who has ever lost his license.  The government will not be able to regulate it, so people will be aborting fetuses in the third trimester.  Live babies will be delivered in motel rooms and thrown in the trash.

Abortion is awful, but banning it would be worse. 

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