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you must be drinking the keystone premium. key light is prestijus.

You're all losing prestige just by talking about crappy beer... and cursing at wannabe beer snobs.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: for those that have started law school
« on: July 03, 2007, 04:59:19 PM »
 ::)

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I lost weight during 1L.  I win!

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: 1L Summer Jobs
« on: June 26, 2007, 08:13:48 PM »
chime in with weekly updates people...

No.

 ;)  It's not like our jobs are going to change by the week. What's the point?

well, some of you are saying youll be doing cool stuff, just not yet.

and we wants to hear about it  :)

Too bad, we aren't here to do your bidding.  :P

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: 1L Summer Jobs
« on: June 26, 2007, 05:20:44 PM »
chime in with weekly updates people...

No.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: 1L Summer Jobs
« on: June 24, 2007, 08:08:52 AM »
I only make about $10/hr, but my summer class was paid for and that was over $5500.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: 1L Summer Jobs
« on: June 22, 2007, 04:23:57 PM »
I have friends at small firms who are doing what I would consider more secretarial stuff (answering phones, even), which would probably make me want to kill myself.  I just research and write memos all day and no one bothers me.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: 1L Summer Jobs
« on: June 20, 2007, 05:11:09 PM »
A lot of people at my school are doing clerkships with federal judges this summer.  Sounds like great experience, but I don't think they get paid.

I also think that grades are an overrated part of the 1L job search.  Yes, all else being equal, better grades at better schools open more doors.  But networking can be just as important, if not more so, as long as your grades are respectable.


I agree too-- some of the people I know who didn't do so hot grade-wise have great connections and got their jobs that way.  I don't have *&^% for connections, so grades were more important for my job search.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: 1L Summer Jobs
« on: June 20, 2007, 02:11:38 PM »
very true.

Basically, I am just trying to figure out my chances of getting a 1l SA position, assuming I go to one of the T14s.  I think this will come into my decision of schools, because I would like to get the experience and maybe pay off some of my undergrad debt.

Basically, you can't apply for a firm job until Dec. 1 if you're a 1L.  The people who really want such jobs are on the ball--they compile a mass mailing to target firms (literally there should be HUNDREDS of firms on your list) and drop them in the mail on Dec. 1.  The great thing about this system, as Vapid implies, is that most people will interview over winter break which can lead to an offer before grades even come out.  Towelie got his job this way.

I don't know what other schools have, but at Penn there is also 1L OCI in the spring.  It's much, much smaller than the 2L version, but I got a callback from my one interview and I know someone else got a job as a SA that way.

So if you're at a top school, it's yours for the taking, but you need to be proactive.

We also had 1L OCI, and people got summer associate jobs at firms, but it is MUCH smaller and you can't get anything unless you have pretty awesome grades.  I don't think it's impossible to get a 1L SA position (I was offered one with a firm) but it just depends on what kind of firm you're looking to work for.  Obviously getting a job with a really big/well-known/well-paying firm is ideal, but I don't think that's the norm. 

b4 the summer started, thats all people talked about, so they make it seem like its a given...

I don't know what "people" you're talking about, but I am just referring to BIGLAW firms.  If you're at a top school, you'll probably have an easier time landing an SA position with a big firm.  If you're not at a top school, your best bet is to try to get experience with a smaller firm, which is much easier depending on your location/market.  Everyone I know is working for firms, but that includes firms with 2 attorneys and bigger/more prestigious ones.  Grades determine the prestige factor of your job, at least at my school.  Those with good grades have jobs with good or decent-sized firms.  Those without good grades are working for very small firms or doing volunteer work or something along those lines.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: 1L Summer Jobs
« on: June 20, 2007, 02:04:25 PM »
very true.

Basically, I am just trying to figure out my chances of getting a 1l SA position, assuming I go to one of the T14s.  I think this will come into my decision of schools, because I would like to get the experience and maybe pay off some of my undergrad debt.

Basically, you can't apply for a firm job until Dec. 1 if you're a 1L.  The people who really want such jobs are on the ball--they compile a mass mailing to target firms (literally there should be HUNDREDS of firms on your list) and drop them in the mail on Dec. 1.  The great thing about this system, as Vapid implies, is that most people will interview over winter break which can lead to an offer before grades even come out.  Towelie got his job this way.

I don't know what other schools have, but at Penn there is also 1L OCI in the spring.  It's much, much smaller than the 2L version, but I got a callback from my one interview and I know someone else got a job as a SA that way.

So if you're at a top school, it's yours for the taking, but you need to be proactive.

We also had 1L OCI, and people got summer associate jobs at firms, but it is MUCH smaller and you can't get anything unless you have pretty awesome grades.  I don't think it's impossible to get a 1L SA position (I was offered one with a firm) but it just depends on what kind of firm you're looking to work for.  Obviously getting a job with a really big/well-known/well-paying firm is ideal, but I don't think that's the norm. 

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