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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Pre-law books
« on: April 06, 2006, 11:44:09 AM »
my prep books have all said to slug it out and do the briefing longhand, to gain ownership of the info as well as have it handy for class. I have no clue what is best, but I suspect I will start with long briefs and end up book briefing after a slide into apathy:)

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Backstabbers
« on: April 06, 2006, 11:41:45 AM »
Haha this is a great thread!

I would find a casual mature way to drop in the lap of the backstabber that you know what they did, and then behave maddeningly civilly to them. It works every time. You make them aware that you have friends that let you know things, so their little games may go on behind your back, but you are aware of it. Also this is a good way to get them paranoid "who said something to her?" etc.

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Pre-law books
« on: April 06, 2006, 11:13:39 AM »
By the "rainbow highlighting method" do you mean book briefing or is this a highlighting method for AFTER you've prepared a brief?

Start with whatever interests you, and then refine it when you discover the things you like most and what you are willing to sacrifice for them. But keep school #1, trust me :)

I did undergrad in a weekend format for 3 years, and found my classmates put much more thought into their work than the traditional students I had been used to working along side. Part time students (when also working full time) just don't have time to waste in general, so they tend to be more focused, more intense, and more prepared. Just my experience.

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Pre-law books
« on: April 05, 2006, 11:00:30 PM »
Cleveland Marshall's Academic Excellence Director recommends 1000 Days to the Bar and Getting to Maybe. I've gotten through 1000 Days to the Bar which I really liked, I thought it really helped with the paradigm shift we'll all soon be experiencing. It also made the distinction between the practice and the school elements--I am all ready to start planning my life in great detail :)

Another book I really enjoyed (and found a bit less tasking and more practical) was Munneke's "How to Succeed in law school". However, it is much lighter, more of an overview.

I met with some attorneys and paralegals and had my very own little roundtable in Cleveland (they were from Calfee Harper and Ass. I think, which is probably in the top 5 firms in Cle., brilliant people., I think Harvard grads in a few cases.) They all said if at ALL possible, take out the loans, go full time. Even over having an employer pay ALL your costs and having to go PT (at the time my employer offered those benefits). This was about a year ago when I was trying to determine how best to pursue my legal career. They said do it ASAP. Especially if you are a woman, as time sometimes equals more family and thus more divided attention. They also said, if you are in the Cleveland Market, regardless of actual education, attend in the order set here 1. Case, 2. Cleveland Marshall, 3. Akron. They said Case grads tended to be the 'face' of law offices in the area and command the highest salaries. They said the C-M grads were the ones that did the actual work, better than the Case grads. They basically disregarded Akron.

On the other hand, my grandfather went to Cleveland Marshall part time while working full time as engineer and supporting his family of 4 kids and a stay-at-home wife, and later went on to run B.F. Goodrich in Australia and basically do VERY well for himself.

So if you listen to the legal professionals I talked to, get it over with. If you think you can work like a dog and rise above, go for PT if that works for you. However, it is important to remember that part time is ALMOST full time anyway. You are getting about 20 credits v. 30 and have MUCH less than 1/2 the time to work on it.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: oh man i'm scared
« on: April 05, 2006, 10:38:32 PM »
I vote Willamette if they let you in :)

Wait List / Re: Not Accepted + Not Rejected = Wait listed?
« on: April 05, 2006, 10:19:06 PM »
Well, it would seem as though it is a de facto deferral, right? Which is a sort of waitlist.

I think it also depends on their due date for apps. If it was April 1st, I wouldn't panic. If it was Feb, yeah, maybe the big W-L.

Wait List / Re: On Hold at Case
« on: April 05, 2006, 10:17:18 PM »
I am seriously jealous that you guys have heard back at all! I asked last week where they were in the process and was told my app was before the AdCom right then, and that I would hear shortly.

I was looking at the LSN site and it doesn't show a single rejection yet for Case. They are TOYING with us :)

I will send in a letter if I have the honor of being deferred :)

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