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So here are all my choices, with the maybes indicated (admission still pending.) Do me a favor and vote... I love the PNW and would love to move there, but it would clearly be pricier. My job will pay full tuition reimbursement but lets just say they are SUCKING MY SOUL AWAY, and any decline in performance (i.e. typos) will get me fired and I will lose the benefit. I'd rather not live at home, but for the right price I would. What do you think? Is there any choice you would rule out completely?

..or does it signal you will be ready to argue your man into the ground over the way you hang the TP?

Just wondering, since the debate around the other gender is so hot and heavy.

So I'm hoping Seattle and Case pull through with some $, but I can't count on that and my choices are still complex. Especially since my work just reversed their tuition reimbursement policy and they will now pay for my Law school, books, etc. As well as paying me around $40 a year and putting a quarter of that into retirement funds, and providing insanely good health insurance--but it is a mind-numbing job.

Cleveland Marshall-Full Time, could live at home, would only have to take out loans for about 18500. Part Time, could live at home or in posh apartment, because school would be entirely free and I'd be making my normal income as well. COST $18500, or $(-40,000)

Akron- Part time, could live at home or in a posh apartment, school would be completely paid for and I'd make my normal income $(-40,000)

Lewis & Clark- Part time, would have to get an apartment, could get a job, hopefully with good health benefits. ($20,000) depending on job.

Willamette- Full time, would have to get an apartment, couldn't get job, $10,000 scholarship, must pay for benefits. ($30,000)

So do I go to a better school and shell out $20,000, hoping to get lucky in the job front and find myself at a similar wage and company in Portland or Salem, or do I stay local and make a decent income while having law school completely paid for (including books, but not computers).

Help me pick because my Seat deposit for Cleveland Marshall is due in 12 hours :)

Choosing the Right Law School / Reallocation of scholarship $
« on: April 28, 2006, 12:35:17 PM »
The assistant director of Admissions at Lewis & Clark called me, and he said they are looking into getting me scholarship dollars from 'reclaimed' funds from those not attending. According to, there is almost $400,000 in rejected scholarships available, and I am the only deferred admit up there (though I know there are likely many more. My question is, how likely do you think it is that I will see some $ come my way? I had a UGPA of 2.17, a GradGPA of 4.0, and a LSAT of 163. Any ideas? I am hoping to see $ from them. It would make my decision much simpler.

Choosing the Right Law School / OH MY LORD. ARGH. TUITION
« on: April 27, 2006, 01:15:56 PM »
So my company reversed their exclusion of full tuition reimbursment for law school and they will now pay for it ALL.

This is after I asked for my enrollment status to be changed to Full Time. ARGH.

Choosing the Right Law School / Does anyone else hate this limbo?
« on: April 21, 2006, 06:10:47 PM »
Okay I swear I will not spend Friday night on LSD, but I just had to post... does anyone else feel totally emotionally spent over all this? I know I have sort of split myself down the middle applying on both sides of the country, but I am feeling rather tortured by the uncertainty and the blind deposits (when you have no idea if your top choices are going to come through or not.) I got into two schools over a month ago, and people keep asking me where I chose, but I can't answer and I have to helplessly tell them I won't be able to for another month at least (at this rate.) I'm still before Adcom's at Seattle and Akron, and I'm growing more bitter by the moment but I refuse to withdraw before they make a decision--it's a stalemate. I was so excited, and now I feel like bashing my head against a wall. I have apartments to locate, a move to plan, and I can't do any of it until I hear from the stragglers... over %50 of my apps, and most of the top choices!

Anyone else feel me on any of this angst? Throw me a bone here.

In other news, tomorrow night I fly from Ohio to Oregon to visit Willamette, Lewis & Clark, and Seattle University. Wish me luck!

Choosing the Right Law School / Settle a Clevelander's bet...
« on: April 19, 2006, 08:18:04 PM »
My mom and I are having a bit of a disagreement between which school is overall better--prestige, performance, etc. Prepare yourself... both are T3's. I will withhold my opinion, but I want to know, if you were either choosing between these schools to attend or hire from, which would you select as top pick?

Choosing the Right Law School / Switched from Part Time to Full time
« on: April 19, 2006, 07:55:43 PM »
If anyone, like me, applied places part time and then decided full time was the way to go, take heart! I just got Cleveland Marshall's dean to approve a switch from part time to full time, so it is back in the running.

Choosing the Right Law School / horror story
« on: April 17, 2006, 09:25:32 PM »
Apparently, Cleveland Marshall send over 200 some erroneous letters of acceptance followed by immediate apologies and rescinding letters. My dad called me to let me know it was on the Cleveland Channel 19 news today, and he wanted to verify that I'd gotten a financial aid letter (to assure him I was really in :) What a horror story! Can you imagine? Did this happen to anyone that posts here?

I was immediately impressed by Cleveland Marshall, as it is somewhat of an oasis in the middle of the Cleveland urban desert. There are green spaces (read: tiny lawns) and the law building is compact and state of the art. My tour guide was Meredith, a 2L who already has a position at a large firm through the 2L summer associate interviews. She was extremely friendly, and is on Law Review. All of the students in the open 'atrium' (the law school is just one building with 3 stories of classrooms around an indoor courtyard/atrium that is full of couches) looked relaxed and most had laptops and were talking animatedly with the other students. Annette, the admissions rep I spoke with, was extremely friendly, honest, and enthusiastic.

She spoke candidly about CM as did Meridith. She listed the students, staff, and the law library as her favorite things; and the cafe and some grumpy faculty as her least favorite. C-M seemed very practice oriented, which Meridith confirmed. She said that was a huge advantage, especially with their moot court team. The top %10 of students are invited to join the law review, and the top %20 are invited to join the other Journal. Meridith said that if you are invited, you should by all means join. The moot court is contest based, and there is a brief writing contest to determine the students who can present their oral arguments. About 4-6 1L's are selected for the team.

The cafe was sad. A small snack bar that had $6 sandwiches, Meridith warned us that the selection never changes and it is overpriced. She also warned us that if you bring a lunch, pack it in an ugly bag--or someone might 'forget' that it wasn't theirs. Also, she said, never leave your belongings unattended, and get a locker (about $20 from the SBA.) The atmosphere in the school was utilitarian. The moot court classroom, where many speakers/orientations are held, is impressive.

The library is large, well lit, and airy. There is a limit of 800 sheets of paper per student printed in the computer lab. That does not include research on LexisNexus or WestLaw which both print unlimited on a seperate printer. Additional copies can be purchased for about $5 for 200 additional sheets. There are private study rooms in the library.

I was impressed, but I am not in love with it, mostly because of the surrounding city. It is in a very gray sort of area, and the nearest place to eat is a Subway across the street. Other than that there are no places nearby. People living in the city pay more to live, and people that live nearby like Lakewood or Cleveland Heights/Coventry pay less. In those areas you can expect to spend about $450 a month on a 1 bedroom in a safe building.

Hope this helps, I know I will think of more. PM me with any specific questions. 

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