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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Opinions on American University?« on: March 22, 2008, 10:54:56 AM »42
Where should I go next fall? / Re: W&L vs UIUC« on: March 22, 2008, 10:53:25 AM »I posted this on TLS but so far nobody has responded and I'm impatient, so here goes: If you want to go back to New Orleans, I think W&L is a much better choice than Illinois. 43
Where should I go next fall? / Re: W&L this year with $$ or try for T14 next year?« on: March 21, 2008, 03:41:42 PM »I think Lenny's contention is that top 10% at W&L is not at a disadvantage when compared to a UVA median graduate. The raw numbers don't do anything to help the argument in favor of UVA median > top 10% at W&L, because we have no idea where those grads placed in their class. Due to the sheer size of the UVA class (375!), there are 95 top 25% graduates per year. That could easily account for all those listed by BruinBro for the DC firms, especially since UVA is known for sending a lot of their (best) grads to DC. I have to respectfully disagree. The stats for UVA outpacing W&L are not isolated to DC. Among BigLaw in Texas, NY, Boston, and Chicago, UVA has around 15-35 graduates at firms where W&L has maybe 1 or two- if any at all. This wide disparity also undercuts the size argument. UVA is not 10 times as large as W&L. It seems the evidence in support of the idea that W&L has BigLaw placement problems is fact-based and coming from the actual websites of the law firms. The contrary opinion seems to be based on the assertion of "trust us, we place great". It seems better to trust facts more than anecdotes. 44
Where should I go next fall? / Re: W&L this year with $$ or try for T14 next year?« on: March 20, 2008, 09:49:37 PM »Hunton & Williams and Troutman Sanders are both at 145, Williams Mullen isn't far behind. Huh? Hunton and Williams has 5 total associates from W&L in their Richmond office. Troutman Sanders only has 2. I don't think anyone is saying that W&L grads are making 40k in the backwoods. But it sure is hard to find many W&L grads at most BigLaw firms outside of Virginia and darn hard to find many at the Vault 100 firms. 45
Denials / Re: Rejected at UC Berkley« on: March 20, 2008, 08:56:53 PM »I received my first rejection today and it was Berkley. It was expected but the optimist in me held out hope. I have shot 3 for 4 so far with 6 more to go. If I can get 2 or 3 of those I will be happy. If it helps anyone I have a 160 and a 4.0. Sorry to hear it 
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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Quinnipiac Univ. Law« on: March 20, 2008, 08:51:34 PM »I started a similar thread in another section but did not get much info, so I'm trying again here. They do one heck of an election poll 47
Where should I go next fall? / Re: W&L this year with $$ or try for T14 next year?« on: March 20, 2008, 08:50:22 PM »Not that this really matters - but I believe a current 3L at W&L will be working at Cravath next year. And I'm pretty sure he is not top 10% but I really have no idea. Very few doors are closed by going to W&L. I don't think there are too many 145k jobs in Richmond. Certianly not enough to absorb a significant amount of W&L graduates each year. And even if many W&L grads were choosing to stay in secondary markets, how does one explain the fact that W&L has only one or two (and sometimes zero) graduates at many of the best law firms. The numbers are pretty stark. Except for Iowa and perhaps Minnesota, I don't know of a top 25 school with less placement among the top 100 law firms. 48
Where should I go next fall? / Re: American-WCL: Does their high tuition make it worth going?« on: March 15, 2008, 08:16:41 PM »They're not worth it at full price. Most people I know from there are really struggling. TITCR 49
Law School Applications / Re: All about TRANSFERRING! (after 1L year)« on: March 13, 2008, 09:45:37 AM »I'm not going to pretend I know all about this stuff, but what I do know comes from my own experience. Our firm (not sure if considered "biglaw" but we pay market salary in all 8 office locations) hires people spanning the entire range of law schools. We have GULC and UVA grads all the way down to Tier 4. We hire a lot from regional schools (including a great deal from a nearby Tier 3) but there are certainly exceptions. You don't need to be top 10% to lateral. If you wanted to go to BU or BC, you could probably do it with top 30% or maybe even lower. 50
Law School Applications / Re: UNC« on: March 09, 2008, 12:00:10 PM »I think I'm just going to preemptively withdraw from UNC. Their faculty seems to be taking the same approach |
