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Current Law Students / Re: Advice on succeeding Torts??
« on: October 22, 2007, 07:47:08 PM »
Thanks Thorc...

I believe I'm dealing w/ just straight fact patterns.  I absolutely need to work on the timing aspect too...

Current Law Students / Re: Personal Jurisdiction Over the Defendant
« on: October 22, 2007, 07:26:27 PM »
The missing piece in the analysis is that federal courts also have to have personal jurisdiction over the defendant.  They borrow the requirements from the state where the district court is located.


Fed Cts. interpret state law (including the long arm statutes)unless it is a federal issue (if it were for some reason a federal issue I'm not sure if there would be any boundaries for minimum contacts besides the constitution?). 

Main point is Fed courts need to have PERSONAL jurisdiction as well, in order to satisfy due process, and then they ALSO need SUBJECT MATTER jurisdiction (e.g. "arising under", "diversity" or some form of joinder / supplemental jurisdiction)--      don't be fooled.

Also, another thing: there are also the other traditional ways of having personal jurisdiction you don't want to overlook
Here's my "ways to establish PJ" rule:
1. CONSENT (express or implied)
2. PRESENCE (actual, domicle, or doing ongoing/systematic business)
3. LONG ARM STATUTES of states (*also - must be constitutional)

Current Law Students / Re: Advice on succeeding Torts??
« on: October 22, 2007, 07:17:27 PM »
yeah this is a good question. We cover so much material that it is impossible to touch on most of it in class...

My outline's looking really lean --- I hope it has enough details.  I just can't imagine I'll get too deep into policy debates, nuances in doctrines, weird applications etc. on the final.

Having fun with this class, but I wish I knew an effective STRATEGY.


Job Search / Public defender clerking --- good experience?
« on: October 13, 2007, 10:20:19 PM »
Honestly I kind of think I should do this for (1) the experience [might be really hands-on, substanative?] and (2) the very least that I might do while in school is seek out some of the under-appreciated(?) stuff and take it seriously in deciding what to do with my career.

What do people think?

Anyone with experience in this field?

Current Law Students / Re: Favorite Weezer Song
« on: October 08, 2007, 09:03:27 PM »

Job Search / Re: Cravath
« on: September 29, 2007, 12:25:04 PM »
what's the chance of working for Cravath with a JD from Fordham?
close to 0?

I googled Cravath and went to "attorney search." Looks like aside from the HYS standard the next primary set of law schools was from NYC. (correct me if I'm wrong - I think Fordam is in the city? - sorry not from there).

Anyways, there were 32 attorneys listed from Fordham, compared w/ 64 from NYU, and 82 from Columbia. 

There were less than 20 attorneys from each of these schools I looked up: Cornell, Penn, Chicago, Georgetown, UVA. (and for the record, ok, only 9 from Stanford).

Another note is I didn't pay attn to attorneys' titles and what they might have implied.

But all in all, it didn't look too bad for Fordam...

Now can anyone sum up what makes Cravath the primier firm in the U.S.? Is their client base fundamentally different than your tyical presitgous firms? (other than the firm's smaller size, etc..) Honest question -- not too familiar with them and what might set them aside.

(alright just lost 20 minutes... back to the studies...)

That's probably a good idea. I've done just a couple and found myself looking for the names of the individuals or corporations, because issues arise out of their divergent desires. I'm just throwing darts since you've probably done more of these than me, but try focusing on the people one at a time and asking yourself what they want or don't want. That'll get your mind off the law and ground you in a practical approach.

LEEWS troll?

j/k, I do find this idea to be helpful though (although I'm yet to take my first exam).

Is it the lowest level state court or the next level up?

I'm reading a case and I think it might be the later, if anyone knows for sure please enlighten me.

I read em both... starting to move faster though and not really go nuts all the time if I don't understand every detail the first time around.

-- edit: actually I only have the Casenote book for the most reading-intensive class (we've had like 20 cases this week -- short n sweet excerpts).  I like that they give you the RULE (and its good to check your interpretation upfront) but they're not always on the money, esp. considering the idiosyncrasies of different professors.

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