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Hofstra U School of Law / Paul Campos on Hofstra Law
« on: October 09, 2013, 07:24:14 PM »
Paul Campos has some interesting comments on Hofstra law. http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2013/10/dealing-with-the-crash-pt-3 "Hofstra’s law school is a classic example of an institution whose very reason for being has become at the least highly questionable. Located in the hyper-saturated New York City-area legal market (there are about 15 law schools within 100 miles of its campus), Hofstra nominally charges a preposterous $49,500 in annual tuition and fees, even though half of the 2012 graduating class didn’t get legal jobs, and a grand total of 17% of graduates reported salaries of $55,000 or more nine months after graduation."

"Over the last three years Hofstra has, even more than American, defenestrated its admission standards. Three years ago the entering class’s median GPA was 3.58; this fall it is 3.14 (This latter figure is now lower than that of all but a handful of bottom-tier law schools with frankly quasi-open admissions policies). Over the past two years the entering class’s median LSAT has gone from 159 (77.6th percentile) to 154 (59.7th); a quarter of the new entering class has LSAT scores lower than those of the average test-taker."

"As for actual tuition revenues, Hofstra is notorious for giving “scholarships” to about two-thirds of students who matriculate — actually straight discounts on nominal tuition — that more than half of these recipients lose, because retention requires remaining in the top 40% of the class." "On the other hand, if Hofstra’s law school has, like so many other schools, engaged in profligate spending over the past few years while playing the rankings and prestige game, and was therefore only more or less breaking even or already running a deficit a couple of years ago, then . . . "

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Barry or Coastal?
« on: September 02, 2013, 01:52:27 PM »
Neither. Your chances of getting a decent job graduating from either schools is not good.

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From the ABA Journal.
Among all the accredited law schools with merit-based scholarships, these 25 schools had the worst retention rates for entering students in 2011:

Akron (21%)
St. Mary’s (21%)
Howard (24%)
St. Thomas in Florida (24%)
Texas Wesleyan (28%)
George Mason (32%)
Rutgers-Camden (32%)
Barry (39%)
Florida A&M (40%)
Santa Clara (40%)
Chicago-Kent (42%)
Pacific-McGeorge (42%)
Catholic (43%)
Charlotte (43%)
Arkansas Fayetteville (44%)
Western State University (45%)
UNLV (46%)
Brooklyn (47%)
Chapman (48%)
Hofstra (49%)
Idaho (49%)
Seattle (49%)
Golden Gate (50%)
John Marshall (50%)
Texas Southern (50%)

Schools with 100 percent retention rates: UCLA, University of Minnesota, Emory, University of Arizona, University of Colorado, Connecticut, Oklahoma, Oregon, Stetson, Vermont, Liberty and South Dakota.


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There are a lot of us news lower ranked law schools that have good placement rates on this list.  West Va, LSU, South Tex, Ark, Campbell, etc

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Did you see this one? According to Dan Filler on the Faculty Lounge South Texas ranks 23rd on the Class of 2012 ABA Employment Report (JD Required, FT, LT Minus Law School Funded). Yes, you read that right-23rd. This puts it above most us news first tier law schools. See http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2013/04/a-cleaner-ranking-of-schools-long-term-full-time-employment-minus-law-school-funded-jobs.html#more Somebody is doing something right.

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According to Dan Filler on the Faculty Lounge IU ranks 101st on the Class of 2012 ABA Employment Report (JD Required, FT, LT Minus Law School Funded). This puts it below Wayne State, Texas Southern, Ohio Northern, North Dakota.  See http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2013/04/a-cleaner-ranking-of-schools-long-term-full-time-employment-minus-law-school-funded-jobs.html#more Other surprises on the list are Washington & Lee and Conn.

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According to Dan Filler on the Faculty Lounge Washington & Lee  ranks 135th on the Class of 2012 ABA Employment Report (JD Required, FT, LT Minus Law School Funded). This puts it below Faulkner, Touro, Liberty, Regent, and other low ranked law schools.  See http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2013/04/a-cleaner-ranking-of-schools-long-term-full-time-employment-minus-law-school-funded-jobs.html#more Other surprises on the list are IU Maurer and Conn.
 

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Probably not a good idea. However check the school's placement rate on Law School Transparency. A few low rated law schools do have good job placement rates.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: NYLS or Retake??
« on: June 02, 2013, 03:05:06 PM »
De finitely retake. NYLS does not have good job placement. Take an LSAT review course.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: new law school
« on: May 12, 2013, 05:35:45 PM »
It's very risky going to a new law school.

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