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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Cardozo vs Temple
« on: March 29, 2014, 11:38:06 AM »
Cardozo COA: $235kish.
Cardozo COA after scholarship: $150kish

Temple COA: $130kish
Temple COA after scholarship: $100kish

That means the difference is about $50kish. Not that this is an insignificant figure, but it is, in the long term, workable. I do strongly believe you can negotiate for more money out of Cardozo. Even if you don't get any more, though, since you want to work in NY, Cardozo is the place to go given your current situation.

Good luck!

Law School Applications / Re: Low GPA Questions
« on: March 29, 2014, 11:23:51 AM »
Work experience certainly is a soft boost, but a minimal one. I highly doubt that 2 years of minor paralegal work will significantly offset a low GPA. If the main reason you are wanting to take a few years off is just in the hopes that it will help you out in law school apps, I would reconsider. If I were you, I would finish your degree as strongly as possible (upward grade trend is also a soft boost). I would then invest as much time as possible into studying for the LSAT, and write phenominal essays/addendums. Apply as soon as possible, and see what comes of it. If you don't get in to the schools you want right away, continue your work pursuits and apply the following year.

Now, if you want to work as a paralegal for other reasons, then ok. Like, if your personal situation for the next few years requires you to work full time and not go to school. Or if you are not 100% sure of the legal field and want to see if you like it... things like that.

Good luck!

General Board / Re: Where should I go in FL?
« on: March 29, 2014, 11:15:05 AM »
Just be upfront with them. They are expecting applicants to negotiate. Don't be rude about it.. like "WTF?! Why didn't you give me more money!?!?" Just tell them your situation..

"I really like your school because of x,y,z. You offered me X$, making your COA Y$. This other school COA is Z$. This other school offers me all of this, making me more torn in my decision. I'm hoping I qualify for more money to offset these considerations. Thank you so much and your school is amazing."

Or something like that... :)

General Board / Re: Where should I go in FL?
« on: March 27, 2014, 06:51:14 PM »
Also, have you negotiated with the schools for $? For example, you could make a strong case to stetson for way more money using FSU's offer, even with no schoalrships from them. As I pointed out, with your scholarship, Stetson is the same cost. However, FSU is faaarr stronger than Stetson in almost every way. You could probably squeeze out serious cash out of them.

General Board / Re: Where should I go in FL?
« on: March 27, 2014, 06:45:17 PM »
Just off of this info., I'd personally would do FSU. The end costs will approximately be the same.

FSU total cost of attendance = 120kish. Stetson total COA = 180kish. Stetson COA after your scholarship = 120kish.

FSU > Stetson, especially in Florida.

Unless UM offers you significant money AND you know you want to live in Miami, I'd pick FSU over it. I'd turn down Stetson and Barry.

Now, UF and FSU are pretty much equal. UF is a little cheaper and has a little more pull in southern/eastern florida. FSU is a little more expensive, but has the obvious benefit of being in the state capital and will help you out for jobs in the gulf.

In sum, I would be torn between FSU and UF. If you don't really care about the region of Florida you end up working in, I would go to the one that is cheaper. You should also visit the schools. You may find that the "vibe" of the more expensive is far worth the extra cash.

Good Luck!

Yikes... well, thats a difference. I honestly have no idea... I would defer to the judgement of others on this one.

Thats said, if I were forced to pick one or the other just on these facts, I would probably go with UMinn. But I may be wrong.

Good luck!

Where should I go next fall? / Re: UK vs. UL vs. $NKU
« on: March 16, 2014, 10:56:48 AM »
Maintain you are amazing. You say you don't know anything about these law schools, but you comment any way.


Where should I go next fall? / Re: UK vs. UL vs. $NKU
« on: March 15, 2014, 10:45:25 AM »
When evaluating schools...

1) Scholarship money in of itself is not enough information. You have to deduct that from the total cost of attendance, creating your effective COA. The effective COA is what you want to compare. ex: school A gives you 100k while school B gives you 25 k. School A sounds amazing right now... however, if school A COA is 250k and school B COA is 50k, school B is 125k cheaper than school A.

2) General employment stats are also not enough information to base a decision on. You need to find out what % of grads are a) finding work in the region you want to work in; and b) finding work in the legal sector you want to work in. It is also beneficial to factor in information like total full-time long term % employed, underemployed, un-employed and still seeking work, % that snag clerkships, business work, advanced degrees, biglaw, public interest, etc. You may find that the "lesser" school is nominally the same as the "better" school.

3) You also want to compare realistic salary expectations for each school given the legal sector and region you want to work in. Also keep in mind any loan repayment programs that the schools may offer you.

4) It may also be beneficial to compare a realistic projection of how well you will do in the law school (class rank). Law schools are, to some extent, doing this already when evaluating your file. The LSAT and GPA are strong predictors for your performance as a 1L. You should take advantage of this as well. Check out law school predictor. You can find out the % of ppl that are at or below your LSAT/GPA combo. This is a loose prediction for your class rank. Also, as the LSAT has a 3 point standard deviation, input your upper and lower lsat band. Do the same for your GPA. You can then find out where you are under a best case and worst case scenario, and then expect to be somewhere in between.

5) Also compare things like environment, grading policies/curves, program concentrations, campus offering, network, etc.

6) You should then use all of this information to project a worst, best, and realistic case scenario for yourself at each school after you graduate. You want to find out how long it would take you to get out of your debt at either school.

So to answer your question, you want to go to the school that will satisfy your realistic goals while offering you a manageable debt load. You may find that both schools will get you this goal, however, the lower ranked one will allow you to get out of debt far quicker. Likewise, perhaps the higher ranked school offers you the ability to pay back the higher debt far quicker, and so maybe thatís the better option?

In the end, you need to do a lot more homework. Have realistic expectations, which requires you to see the entire picture, not just a number on US News Ranking.

Good luck!

1) Don't be annoyed with yourself, ever. You are obviously a passionate, driven, intelligent individual. The whole reason you posted on here, I hope, is to get different perspectives than your own. Be proud of this farsightedness, it, sadly, is a rare attribute in the majority of 0Ls.

2) Hope for the best, plan for the worst, expect something in between.

3) At this point, just kick major butt in your undergrad. Get the strongest GPA you possibly can, do some internships, part-time work, participate in community service and other extra curricular things that interest you. If you want, go to grad school and broaden your knowledge about a given field you hope to practice law in, even take a few years to work in it as a non-lawyer if you want. Study your butt off for the LSAT. Get strong letter of recommendations, write killer essays, etc. This is all - and in many ways, more than - it takes to get into even the best law schools. But, it sounds like you are already planning on doing this.

Good luck and enjoy college! :)

1) If you enroll at any school, you must withdraw your application from all schools that have given you a firm decision (ie. rejected/accepted). You do not need to withdraw your application if you haven't heard back yet from a school, have been waitlisted, or have been held.

2) So, if both X and Y have accepted you, and you enroll into X, you must withdraw from Y.

3) The only ethical way around this, I guess, is to approach X and be 100% honest and humble with them. I may also contact Y to see if they can be of any help in this matter. They may even offer you $ - you never know...

Good luck

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