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It happens... but the GPA is a little more fuzzy than the LSAT. The lsat is standardized, thus it is a strong measure of your aptitude to succeed as a 1L in relation to the rest of the applicant pool.

The GPA, on the other hand, is a little more subjective. The GPA will be influenced by the difficulty of coursework, degree, university, grade inflation/deflation, etc.  Therefore, a 3.0 physics major from Harvard is not the same as a 4.0 basket weaving major from some small unknown school that has massive grade inflation.

If you feel that your GPA is not a true indicator of your academic potential, and you have an extremely consice, strong, and legitimate argument for that, I would consider writing a GPA Addendum for schools whose GPA average is above yours.

As a final note, there was a great mock admissions panel that Kaplan recently held. On the panel were the admission deans from several top 10 law schools (harvard, u penn, nyu, etc). They evaluated 4 different fake applicants for entry into a fake law school. The applicant they selected ended up having an LSAT score just under their average and a 2.9 GPA, far from their 3.8 something average GPA. The applicant had just shined so much in every other soft factor, and had taken so many difficult courses to off set that low GPA, that they felt drawn to pick that applicant.

Good luck!!


If you are within any school's GPA/LSAT average (25th to 75th percentile), you have a shot. If you are on the lower end of that average, you need to seriously bring it with your softs (personal statement, LOR, resume, transcripts, courses, work, diversity, etc.). A one point LSAT difference from the 25th percentile shouldn't be a strict cut off, but, again, means you have to bring it that much more else where in your application. Also, remember that there is no real statistical difference within any 3 point LSAT band. So, if a school's average is 161 and you have a 157 - you are basically there.

Good luck!

Law School Applications / Re: Printing LSAC'S LOR Form(urgent)
« on: August 28, 2013, 02:33:00 PM »
Not sure...

If you are legitimately having issues with LSAC's site, contact them directly. Of course, be succinct and cordial.

Good luck!

Yup - just keep at it. Make sure to review your entire tests...

In the weeks before my LSAT, I had a 10 point difference between my bottom and top scores. I ended up scoring about in the middle of that range.

Also note that there is a 2 to 3 point standard deviation on each score. So, if you score a 150, you could have equally scored between 147 and 153. Your full range would probably be 145-155 (two standard deviations out).

Good luck!

Just keep practicing.

Make sure it is smart practice: proper un-timed practice leading to strict timed tests.

LSAT horror stories / June 2013 - Ink Stain
« on: August 09, 2013, 09:08:51 PM »
Not much of a horror story, but...

When we were all filling out our scantron with our names and what not, I saw there was a big ink stain covering several answer responses. I alerted the proctor and she asked me if I wanted a different scantron or "just see how it turns out with that one. I'm sure it'll be fine..."

"Just see how it turns out..."?????? And she was serious!

No thank you, I'll take a new scantron, please...

Studying for the LSAT / Re: December LSAT Support Group
« on: August 09, 2013, 08:57:24 PM »
Also note, the RC in GRE is quite a bit easier than on the LSAT. LSAT is far more dense and the questions are far more specific/broad. The method you can use on the GRE RC is not quite the same as on the LSAT.

The up side is that a lot of the skills you learn in LG and LR practice will be of huge help in RC.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: December LSAT Support Group
« on: August 09, 2013, 08:53:07 PM »
Best advice I can give you is to:

a) Outline any prep material you use and refer to it as needed (in terms of methodology and what not)

b) Drop the idea that you are "studying" for the test

The only "studying" you may be doing is learning about the LSAT (what it is, looks like, etc.) and methods to tackle it. Aside for that, the LSAT tests how well you can think logically (find deductions) and comprehend written information. LG primarily tests logic, RC primarily tests comprehension, and LR is about 50-50. These are all skills, however, not knowledge. Therefore, you practice for the test, you don't study. Furthermore, as you practice, you are gaining real skills that will be directly beneficial to you both in law school and as a practicing lawyer.

c) Section off your practice between LSAT info/method, un-timed, loose-timed, strict-timed, and full prep-test practice. Early on you should focus on un-timed practice, closer to the test should be full test practice.

d) Practice, practice, practice. Put in at least 20 hours a week between now and then. When you are a month out, you should be taking several tests each week and reviewing each test from beginning to end.

e) Eat a lot of chocolate.

Good luck my friend! You will rock it!

As far as Princeton Review Workout book...

'nough said...

First off, if you haven't dived into LSAT Blog's website... do it, and do it now! Great advice and helped me a lot...

Second off, I did self study as well. Here is my review on the books I used, take what you will from it:

1) Princeton Review: yuck!!! just... no... stay away from it 100%...

2) Kaplan: My favorite - it lays out a very methodical approach to tackling the test and elaborates on that method in a very positive and uplifting way.

3) Powerscore: Very good material... however, a bit overkill. Kaplan groups things and elaborates, but in a more balanced way. Powerscore goes a bit too far for my taste. That being said, they certainly have great perspectives on things. I ended up basing my approach on Kaplan and supplemented it with tips, and tid-bits from powerscore.

As far as the october test, I'd echo what everyone else said. You should only take the test when you feel you are 100% prepared. If you don't, there is nothing wrong with the December test. If you do feel like you have a shot for october, I would say register for it just in case (if you have the $$). Feel it out the closer you get to test day, you should have a good idea of where your potential is by then. If you feel like you can easily score another 6+ points on the test in just a few months, then stick it out until December. If you feel like you'd at best score another 1-2 points on the test, then I'd go for the october test. At that marginal difference, you'll probably benefit more from applying earlier than maybe scoring a point more on your LSAT...

I ended up scoring 1 standard deviation below from my practice test average (my nerves got the best of me during the first half of the first section - after that it was smooth sailing). So if your practice tests are taken under real conditions, and you do this over and over and over again, you should have a decent idea of where you are. Just take whatever your average is and add/subtract 5 (about two standard deviations from your test score)... you will more than likely score somewhere in that range, and probably on the lower end of it...

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