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I did the princeton review book (Cracking the LSAT) and would really advise against. Its ok if you are just going to go through it quickly and get a fundamental understanding of what is going on - but don't waste your time understanding how Princeton tackles problems. There are a lot of methods that are ok if you are just shooting for mid 150s maybe 160 but is NOT the best way (doubtful you'll get mid 160s+ with it). The book seems more like a crash course if you only have a few weeks to study. There are a LOT of bad habits that the Princeton Review gave me that I am still breaking using the Kaplan Method. Also, I was almost insulted by the lack of attention given to the Reading Comprehension section - it just gives you like 2 or 3 examples and says "Don't forget to circle important words ... good luck."

That being said, Powerscore seems to be the best out there. Once I am done with Kaplan I am going to move on to Powerscore.

LSAT horror stories / Re: lsat study tips
« on: August 06, 2011, 01:39:41 AM »
I'm planning a long term study for LSAT as well...

No matter what you do you have to get your fundamentals down tight. If you can't answer questions un-timed theres no way you can answer them timed. Spend the majority of your time early on on getting a good handle on all those things (understanding question, game, passage types and all the strategies to tackle them).

I would recommend getting a book course like Kaplan (what I am using) or Powerscore (what I will be shortly starting) and follow it. Outline all the methods/steps and tricks. Use your outline when you are practicing each section - make sure you stick to the methods. If you are looking for a 160 then be able to at least get a 170 untimed before working on your timing (if not 175). At this point you shouldn't have much of an issue to get 160 and will just need to work on bubbling techniques and game/passage/question ordering.

One more thing - even though you have time on your side, don't think you can just spend 5-6 hours a week. If you have 10 months then put in at least 20 hours a week from now until you take the test - and the last few months you should bump that up to 30 hours a week.

123 can buy it for $30 new off of amazon... why so much???

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Kaplan vs. Testmasters
« on: July 22, 2011, 04:48:22 PM »
I don't know about the courses themselves but I just finished the Kaplan book set and loved it - very methodical and clear.

What you will find in mostly all comments is that all the reputable prep courses (like Kaplan and Testmasters) offer essentially the same knowledge - the only difference is the professor. So - pick which course has the absolute best professor. Find this info by student comments/rating.

The advanced courses are really designed for people already scoring in the mid 160s trying to bump up into the 170s range. If you are not there yet - this course may be a waste of time and money.

If money is not an issue I would look into a private instructor - again the best you can afford/find.

Minority Topics / How minorities work....
« on: July 20, 2011, 05:32:36 PM »
Hi guys,

So I have two different hispanic backgrounds - does this affect how law schools will view the URM?


Studying for the LSAT / Re: Practice Test Score 145
« on: July 19, 2011, 12:32:31 PM »
Think of it like this...

In music school they say off the bat you MUST be practicing at least 21 hours a week - which matches up with your 3 hours a day. This, however, is a long term plan (for 4 years of practice). If you have a year + to study for the LSAT, 21 hours a week shouldn't be all that bad. I have personally found 4-6 hours a day to be ideal for my improvement. If you are trying to get into the high 160s within 3 months - try 30+ hours a week. My goal is the low 170s - which may take 6 months+ at 30 hours a week for me.

If you are serious about the LSAT and law school, structure you day so that you can squeeze in as much efficient LSAT study as possible. Even on days you can't get a whole lot in still keep your mind on LSAT. Read through sections you have done, review methodology - question types, etc. Read online resources about the LSAT, like this forum. Keeping your mind on the LSAT is just as important as studying for it. A day shouldn't go by without you at least looking at something LSAT related.

One more thing - taking the diagnostic test is fine but make sure from here on out you focus only under un-timed conditions. Once you have a firm grasp of fundamentals (once you can answer all the questions correctly un-timed) then move on to timed tests. Why? If you can't answer the questions un-timed - theres no way you will be able to answer them timed. Once you can score in the 175+ range on an un-timed test - then move on to time management. Make sure that you are learning an efficient method (which all of the major prep companies have) so you can bring your time down when it is relevant. You will also notice, however, that once you have a firm grasp on fundamentals, timing should become less of an issue. Remember, its not speed but efficiency.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAT Study Group/Question
« on: July 18, 2011, 04:19:57 PM »
Thats a good point. The numbers posted by individuals tend to vary in accuracy - a lot of them even say up front that they are not that accurate. It should then be used as a rough guide (it seems like the majority of stuff posted by individuals are legitimate though).

That being said, there is a page for each school that lists their avg. ranges and what not. These tend to be pretty accurate as all the ones I have seen are the exact same thing as the information posted on university websites. I, of course, would start with the university's websites first - then move to sites like these.

Another site is ... this is a calculator straight from LSAC (creators of LSAT) who use information directly from Universities.

Hope that helps.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: RC Question
« on: July 07, 2011, 12:59:26 PM »
This business about the "best" answer is nonsense.  The right answers are right (they are supported by the passage AND answer the question asked) and the wrong answers are wrong (they are either not supported by the passage or they don't answer the question asked).  The writers never give you two right answers where one is subjectively "better" than the other.

That being said, the ONLY questions on which I would skip reading all the answer choices are Must be True questions in the Games section.

After more practice I definitely understand the why the "best" answer concept is off - it truely is either right or wrong. That being said - why do you only skip Must Be True LG questions? What about Inference LR questions (sometimes presented as Must be True)? I'm sure there are other question types that warrant finding the answer and moving on?

This concept seems to be left out of discussion in most of my study material (Princeton Review and Kaplan). In the explanations they often say something like: "B) This is the correct answer because of _____ - move on to the next question. But for study purposes lets look at why the other answers are wrong." The majority of the times they don't say that - but when they do its not really clear why?

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Logic games books
« on: July 03, 2011, 09:19:51 AM »
I'm liking the Kaplan book - but I'm not sure how it stacks up against others. I started the Kaplan book getting about 90% accuracy in about 15-20 min per game. I am half way through the book and am now at 100% accuracy at about 10-11 min. per game. I'm probably gonna be buying the McGraw and PowerScore books after I finish Kaplan.

If you do pick multiple books - make sure not to get confused with your methodology. In the end you should pick one way to do each step/game type/question type - if that means combining different tech. thats fine, just as long as it works .

Good luck

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