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Studying for the LSAT / Re: December LSAT Support Group
« on: August 09, 2013, 08:53:07 PM »
Best advice I can give you is to:

a) Outline any prep material you use and refer to it as needed (in terms of methodology and what not)

b) Drop the idea that you are "studying" for the test

The only "studying" you may be doing is learning about the LSAT (what it is, looks like, etc.) and methods to tackle it. Aside for that, the LSAT tests how well you can think logically (find deductions) and comprehend written information. LG primarily tests logic, RC primarily tests comprehension, and LR is about 50-50. These are all skills, however, not knowledge. Therefore, you practice for the test, you don't study. Furthermore, as you practice, you are gaining real skills that will be directly beneficial to you both in law school and as a practicing lawyer.

c) Section off your practice between LSAT info/method, un-timed, loose-timed, strict-timed, and full prep-test practice. Early on you should focus on un-timed practice, closer to the test should be full test practice.

d) Practice, practice, practice. Put in at least 20 hours a week between now and then. When you are a month out, you should be taking several tests each week and reviewing each test from beginning to end.

e) Eat a lot of chocolate.

Good luck my friend! You will rock it!

As far as Princeton Review Workout book...

'nough said...

First off, if you haven't dived into LSAT Blog's website... do it, and do it now! Great advice and helped me a lot...

Second off, I did self study as well. Here is my review on the books I used, take what you will from it:

1) Princeton Review: yuck!!! just... no... stay away from it 100%...

2) Kaplan: My favorite - it lays out a very methodical approach to tackling the test and elaborates on that method in a very positive and uplifting way.

3) Powerscore: Very good material... however, a bit overkill. Kaplan groups things and elaborates, but in a more balanced way. Powerscore goes a bit too far for my taste. That being said, they certainly have great perspectives on things. I ended up basing my approach on Kaplan and supplemented it with tips, and tid-bits from powerscore.

As far as the october test, I'd echo what everyone else said. You should only take the test when you feel you are 100% prepared. If you don't, there is nothing wrong with the December test. If you do feel like you have a shot for october, I would say register for it just in case (if you have the $$). Feel it out the closer you get to test day, you should have a good idea of where your potential is by then. If you feel like you can easily score another 6+ points on the test in just a few months, then stick it out until December. If you feel like you'd at best score another 1-2 points on the test, then I'd go for the october test. At that marginal difference, you'll probably benefit more from applying earlier than maybe scoring a point more on your LSAT...

I ended up scoring 1 standard deviation below from my practice test average (my nerves got the best of me during the first half of the first section - after that it was smooth sailing). So if your practice tests are taken under real conditions, and you do this over and over and over again, you should have a decent idea of where you are. Just take whatever your average is and add/subtract 5 (about two standard deviations from your test score)... you will more than likely score somewhere in that range, and probably on the lower end of it...

Law School Applications / Resume - High School
« on: July 27, 2013, 08:45:38 PM »
Hi guys,

I know there has been a few threads regarding this topic, however, none on this question in specific.

My high school is highly ranked and is also a college. I completed several college credits there and LSAC will be reporting them.

I assume this warrants a place on my resume...What do you guys think?

Also, I of course have strong awards, activities and volunteer exp. here - if I do put my HS on my resume, should I also include a bullet referring to this as well?


Studying for the LSAT / Thanks!
« on: July 01, 2013, 06:05:45 PM »
Hi guys,

I just wanted to say thank you to all the LSD members who have been gracious enough to share their experience and tips on this board - in particular EarlCat. It was extremely helpful advice and led to me scoring in the top percentile! Hopefully I'll be able to pass along everything I learned to the next LSATers. :)

Again, thank you!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Doing better on second half of test...
« on: May 19, 2013, 12:15:17 AM »
Thanks for the reply! I actually really don't have a typical question type that stumps me... I've been getting 180 untimed for a while now.

What I have realized is I have been warming up far too much prior to a full test. I would usually do 5 or 6 full sections before starting the test ( usually reviewing a previous test). I stopped that this week (as I'm obviously not going to do that test day) and have had better results (much more stable around 170).

Studying for the LSAT / Re: negation/logical opposites
« on: May 19, 2013, 12:09:28 AM »
I'd just keep it simpler. If you want to negate something put a big NOT in front of it and be done. I.e. If that thing is green then it must be a frog turns into: it is NOT true that if that thing is green then it must be a frog.

Just my thoughts...

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Help with time constraint problems
« on: May 18, 2013, 11:55:49 PM »
How are you doing untimed?

The best way to "speed" up is to get your untimed score up. Ideally you would want your untimed score to be 175+, however, this may not be that practical if you are taking the test in June. At the very least you should be able to get about 10-15 points above where you want to score. So if you want a 150, you are basically looking at a 165ish untimed.  After all, if you cant answer the questions untimed you really won't be able to answer them timed. Note: When you are doing untimed practice make sure you are following a proven method (ie Kaplan, Powerscore, etc). Also - jot down specific reasons why each correct answer is 100% correct and, more importantly, why each incorrect answer is 100% incorrect.

Once you are in your target untimed range then you can start worrying about timing yourself.

Come test day you really don't want to have to "speed" up though, rather you want move at a heightened and focused pace. In many instances this may actually involve slowing down.

Finally, don't feel stressed over struggling with time. I've been studying for this thing for months and every now and then have to randomly guess on a handful of questions due to time constraints (and am scoring around the 98th percentile). The test is specifically designed so that the average taker will not come close to finishing on time.

So in sum - practice practice practice and more practice (smart practice that is).

Studying for the LSAT / Doing better on second half of test...
« on: May 12, 2013, 10:24:14 AM »
Hi guys,

So I have been very consistently scoring around 168-174 for the past few weeks. That is, until yesterday's whopping 161 on PT 54.

The weird thing is that, even though I did my usual warm-up prior to the test, I did far better in the second half than on the first. I got -4 on S3 (LR) and -0 on S4 (LG). Compared to -7 on S1 (LR) and -9 on S2 (RC). I bring it up because this has happened a few times before where I rock the second half and comparatively stink up the first half.

And yes, I used a 5th section that I placed between section 1 and 2 (PT 58 S2 RC) and ended up getting a -3 on it.

Any advice?

Studying for the LSAT / Stuck at 165
« on: March 16, 2013, 08:13:14 PM »
Hi guys,

So I just picked up my LSAT study from a year and a half ago. (I studied on and off while I was in graduate school and then picked it back up while working a few weeks ago).

I've been pretty stuck in the low-mid 160s for the past few weeks and would appreciate some perspective...

Background Info: I have been studying quite a bit so far - I've gone through all the Kaplan, Princeton Review, PowerScore and LSAC (SuperPrep) prep books a few times. I got to the point where I was consistently getting 177+ in Untimed tests.

Prep Method Now: For the past three weeks now I have been tackling two sections a day under strict timed, loose timed and un-timed conditions. Strict = go until 35 min per section then guess on remaining questions; Loose = after 35 min. are up and you "guessed" on remaining questions, keep going to see how long it takes to finish the section at the same pace; Un-timed = before grading each section, review each question and answer choice, categorizing why a response is 100% correct and why each response is 100% incorrect. For the past three weeks, however, I have not been able to improve much. I am maintaining between a 163-166 Strict Timed score, 170 Loose Timed Score and a 177 Untimed Score.

What has improved has been my time. Before my times were LR: 45 min.; RC: 45 min.; LG: 45 min.; now my times are LR: 40 min.; RC: 42 min.; LG 35 min.. Also note that I started with PT 7 and am planning on going through all published PTs between now and the June test with the most recent closer to June.

Not sure if there is anything you guys recommend? Should I just keep what I'm doing up and eventually progress will show itself or what? I've debated dropping doing each section over again un-timed before checking my work so I could use that time doing more timed practice, but I feel like I could still benefit from the untimed work.



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