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Pre-Law in high school / Re: How-to become a Successful Attorney...
« on: March 23, 2006, 11:51:22 PM »
This is only half my problem.  I will create a thread encompossing all my general, yet IMPORTANT, questions.  I will post the link to that thread in my signature.  Please help me out.

PM me if you have any response to this thread, before my ultimate thread is posted.  I am closing this.

So, it seems that UG is the most important step to getting into Law School--obtaining a solid GPA and LSAT score.

So, how does one go about doing this?  Since I never really worked in school, I lack a studying method, and the like.  I don't really know how to study effectively.  Advice, please?

Prior to responding to this post, please direct yourself to my thread, linked in my signature.  You can respond there to my questions there as well.

Thank you,


No foreign school option? Xenophobes.

Fixed.  ;)

Okay; got it.

Does it pay off to study for the LSAT early?  Is it possible that the LSAT format will change, just like the SATs did?

Pre-Law in high school / Re: How-to become a Successful Attorney...
« on: March 22, 2006, 07:20:21 PM »
Okay, I know what to do.   :)

Before graduating UG, I vow that you all will see "ACCEPTED" to all the Law Schools listed in my lawschoolnumbers profile (linked in my signature).

I really, really appreciate your help.

I'm going to take my academia seriously by starting to make a schedule to instill a sense of priority.

I'll use my last months in High School to experiment with various study methods... i screwed up HS anyway so I might as well make the best of it.   ;D

See you around in the forums.

I'm glad I found this forum to help me vent and get my priorities straight.  I will become one of the best attorneys, ever.

EDIT:  If anyone has additional advice, please post it.  I set this thread to notify me in an event that you respond with helpful advice.  I'm all ears.

What Ugrad did you attend?

Attention soon-to-be law students:

What UG school did you graduate from?  How important is the rank of UG institutions in the eye of law schools?  GPA, is clearly important, but does it really matter where you graduate from?

EDIT:  What Law School are you going to now-or plan on attending coming from your respective UG institution?

Pre-Law in high school / Re: How-to become a Successful Attorney...
« on: March 22, 2006, 06:51:22 PM »
Now - college start: go to the best school that you can or go to the one that is the best fit for you. Forget about high school. Get drunk as often as possible between now and graduation (wait, are you 21 yet?)

Freshman Year: Start off well. Get into a mindset that you want to do as well as possible. If you want to go to Harvard, Columbia, etc this truly means that you need perfect grades. If you fall behind freshman year, its pretty hard to catch back up. Start building some rapport with your professors. Have them write recommendations for you for school wide scholarships. When people do things for you, they become invested in you so they'll want to see you succeed. Build this type of relationship early. Also, you're building up a bit of a resume by getting some scholarships.

Get involved with an organization in your school and meet lots of people. Start writing for your school newspaper and write a paper or two on a topic you're passionate about. Submit it for publication if it is high quality or let one of your profs read it over and save it to keep working on it so that you can publish it later.

During the summer volunteer for an organization or do a fellowship for half the summer. For the other half of the summer go to Africa to do research or humanitarian work. Alternatively, stay at home and volunteer in the inner city.

Sophomore Year: Keep your grades up. Start learning about the LSAT. Let it be known that you want to apply for (prestigious scholarship _____) Gain a leadership position in an organization and volunteer during the school year. During the summer work for an organization or a cause that you are passionate about

Junior Year: Apply for fellowships, scholarships, keep your grades up. Take testmasters, Powerscore, or griffin prep. Get a high score on the LSAT. During the summer, do all your applications; perfect your essays; get those strong recs; have your connections make a few calls; boom

Senior year: Send off your apps, sit back n relax.

Of course this is just a general guideline for getting into a top law school. My path was different as were most people's. There is no one way to have success at law school admissions. Also planning to do these things just to get into law school without recognizing the value of your activities or education is really going to be counterproductive to you in the long run. Do what you love man, and do it well. Then see where you come out. Normally I wouldn't respond to such a thread because its premature, but since you asked me personally, I decided to just put out a general guide. Check out "How to get into Harvard Law" if you want to know what type of activites can help you get in (the same ones tend to repeat themselves) other than that, its truly worthless. Get "How to Get Into the Top Law Schools" (they are indeed books, not articles).

Main thing is: Get good grades (near 4.0 if you're going to a less than stellar institution). Get a good LSAT score. Stay involved with things you're passionate about and build connections with your professors and employers.

if you're worried about your grades, you just have to get yourself into the right mindset. College is terribly easy (sorta like high school) for most people if you aren't lazy. It just takes working long hours every day on sometimes insipid topics. If your skills aren't up to par because you went to a crap high school, seek out tutoring early and be prepared to spend even more time studying. If you're working to pay for college, be prepared not to sleep.

Also, have some fun. Get on an athletic team or get a hobby you really enjoy. Do stuff with your friends on the weekends  (work hard, play hard) and don't forget the friends you leave behind in HS. Some of those can be the best you'll ever have.

Some questions...

The school wide scholarships that you mentioned... what is it for?  Is that scholarships for graduate school (i.e. law school) or...?  

And in regard to the connections I make:  How do I use them to help me get into Law School?  Simply ask them to call the school?

Pre-Law in high school / Re: How-to become a Successful Attorney...
« on: March 22, 2006, 06:32:23 PM »
I am just scared, to be honest.  I screwed up.  Many forum members say (in other posts) to get a 4.0 GPA in High School, and study your ass off to get into the top UG schools in the country.

I'm no where near that.  The best schools I applied to are:  Cornell, New York University, Northwestern and University of Chicago for UG.  I doubt I'll get in.

My back-up school accepted me though--Syracuse University (ranked #50 by USNEWS).

I don't know what to do anymore.  I lost faith in myself; and confidence.

I want those wasted years back and do well.

I screwed around; partied; and screwed girls from left to right neglecting my grades.  And the spare time I had left for homework, I spent on reading cases, and other law stuff for the pure enjoyment.  I neglected school all together, but I floated by.  It was easy, but I really screwed up my chances for the top law school--it seems.

How can I change it? Really?

Since High School is basically over... what can I do now? 

Just do well in college?

Pre-Law in high school / Re: How-to become a Successful Attorney...
« on: March 22, 2006, 06:21:50 PM »
Advice... anyone?

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