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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Question about "unless"
« on: August 08, 2007, 05:50:42 PM »
I agree with Lison.  For what it's worth, I also scored in the top 1%.

I read "Unless X, Y" as equivalent to "If not-X, then Y."  Your instructor seems to think it means that, and also "If X, then not-Y."  I'm pretty sure he's mistaken.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Michigan State University Class of 2010!
« on: July 25, 2007, 05:49:00 AM »
I am basing my assumption off an e-mail from the school that says that the profs will use the same book for each class, you may know better though if you're a student there.
Two possibilities come to mind.  First, the email may be referring only to RWA (MSU's legal research & writing course).  Every RWA prof for every RWA section uses the same set of books.  Second, the email may mean that the same prof will use the same books from semester to semester.  That is generally, but not always, true. 

A third possibility just occurred to me - the author of the email might not know what he or she is talking about.
Also, used books have drastically lower price online compared to bookstores, usually a book that costs 120 used at a bookstore can be found for 40 online, the only reason I am considering uses a campus bookstore at all, is because it is the first term, so I can't just go ask my prof for the next term or go to the bookstore and see what they have marked for the teacher.
Totally fair - the main reason I use the bookstore is my wife works for the same company, so I get a decent discount.  Also, I like to look through books before I buy. 

At some point, the school website will put up First Assignments, which usually include a book list.  So, if you wait for that to come up, you can get your list online and place your order without having to set foot in The College Store.  The only downside is that, depending on how late they post them, you might not have time to wait for your books to come by mail.

Wish I could give you some profs advice, but I just checked the schedule, and I don't know very many of them.  If you're in Section 2, you'll need to bring caffeine to Torts class for sure.  If you're in Section 1 or 3, I've heard good things about your Crim Law prof.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Michigan State University Class of 2010!
« on: July 24, 2007, 08:13:35 PM »
Anyone heard what books we will be using for our classes? (its the same regardless of which prof)

Different profs use different books.

Would prefer to buy them from somewhere other than the bookstore which likes to markup the price 100-200%.

Profit margin at the bookstore is generally about 45% for used, about 20% for new.  Can be higher, especially for used.  I'm not saying you should shop there, just saying the markup isn't quite as egregious as you think.

I'm looking forward to the law library.  It's one of the coolest spots on campus, and looks like it will be a nice place to study.  Besides, looking relaxed when the guy with the 613 page outline is freaking out will only make him freak out more.  Advantage: Vapid.

The law library at Michigan is amazing... I went to undergrad there and it is a great place.  Very quiet and slightly intimidating, however -- literally you feel like it's a crime to sneeze in there because you can hear everything.  :)

I am in love with the Michigan law library.  If they legalized polygamy and man-library marriage, I would buy it a ring.  My wife would just have to understand.

The law library where I'm going - not so much.  I like it, because it's a library, after all, but I think I'll do my studying at a coffee shop, public library, or someplace else.  If we can't find a boarder for our spare bedroom, I'll make that my study.  I think I'm going to have an unofficial rule - no studying where I "live": bedroom, living room, etc.  Seems like it would be too easy to become distracted.  Plus I can't study anywhere with a television on.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: They Say Al Zarqawi is Dead
« on: June 08, 2006, 05:39:10 AM »
Let's not forget: He would have been dead 4 years ago, saving who knows how many lives, if it weren't for Bush's unwillingness to make tough decisions to protect Americans.

Three times the Pentagon came up with a plan to strike Zarqawi's camp in Iraq, and three times the White House killed the plan.  They felt that striking Zarqawi might turn off potential coalition partners for the upcoming Iraq war.  In other words, he didn't act to kill a known terrorist because he was afraid of what other countries might think.

Later, he had the unmitigated gall to declare:
"I'm not exactly sure what you mean, 'passes the global test,' you take pre-emptive action if you pass a global test. My attitude is you take pre-emptive action in order to protect the American people, that you act in order to make this country secure."

What a load.  He had his own global test and his own priorities, and they aren't about making our country secure.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: fake ids and the bar exam
« on: May 19, 2006, 09:01:32 AM »
Problem is, only the OP can determine the true value of the reward- her personal utility curve, if you will.

Fair enough.  I shouldn't be trying to say that OP is wrong just because she thinks it's worth it, and I can't understand that.  But my point was really meant to be directed at others in the thread and not so much the OP.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: fake ids and the bar exam
« on: May 19, 2006, 04:45:53 AM »
I don't think it's a matter of how great the risk is.  It's a matter of how great the risk is compared to the reward.  The risk might be small, but the reward is so much smaller - I don't see how it is worth it.

Let's take that argument to its logical conclusion.

My apartment building is directly across the street from a pizzeria.  Every time I cross that street, I could conceivably be hit by a car and get killed.  The reward for successfully crossing the street is small (getting a slice of pizza to eat) whereas the risk is great (being injured or killed in an accident).  Does that mean that I should never cross the street to go to the pizzeria?

You confuse the gravity of the risk for the expected risk.  These are 2 very different things.

I don't think so.  The expected risk is tiny in both cases. 

Tiny in one case (the pizza), arguably significant in the second (perhaps a low probability of detection, but harm which is potentially very great: bar fitness consequences, possible tort liability, possible harm to family relationships, etc.). 

Pizza is the reward, death is the risk.

... And I have a signature!

Don't you do the magnitude x probability of risks vs. magnitude x probability of rewards and see which is greater?

(P(getting hit by a car)x(how bad it is to be hit by a car)) < (P(getting pizza)x(how good pizza is))
Therefore, it's worth getting pizza.

((P(failing C&F) x (how bad it is to fail C&F)) + (P(OP's sister driving drunk, getting in a car with a drunk driver, getting roofied, getting date-raped, getting non-date-raped, wasting all her money on booze, becoming an alcoholic, etc.) x (how bad it is for any of those various things to happen))) > (P(OP's sister reaping the supposed "benefits" of drinking at 19) x (how good those "benefits" are))
Therefore, it's not worth giving her the old ID.


My point was, almost everybody's just looking at the risk side, comparing the (admittedly low) risk against some arbitrary measure of worth-it-ness.  If you look at the reward side, you'll see it's pretty close to - and maybe even below - zero.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: fake ids and the bar exam
« on: May 18, 2006, 08:52:18 AM »
I don't think it's a matter of how great the risk is.  It's a matter of how great the risk is compared to the reward.  The risk might be small, but the reward is so much smaller - I don't see how it is worth it.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Why did you choose your law school?
« on: May 08, 2006, 03:45:58 AM »
I am unable to move to go to a law school at this time in my life, for several reasons.  This limited me to Michigan law schools (I live in Lansing).  I didn't bother applying to any Detroit-area schools, because I figured I'm not willing to make a ~90 minute commute unless it's to a top school.  This left me with U of M, MSU (Tier 3 when I applied, Tier 4 now), and Cooley.  I applied to all 3, got waitlisted at Michigan, and accepted to the other two with full scholarship.  I ruled out Cooley because MSU is a better school, and then I decided to withdraw from Michigan's waitlist because I decided the commute would be too much of a hardship, plus I wasn't excited about the loans (I didn't expect any scholarship).  If it had been just the money or just the distance, I might have gone to U of M, but the combination of both ruled it out for me.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Strangest law school advice
« on: April 26, 2006, 08:53:47 AM »
For keyboards, I think there are better options than Dvorak.  I've used a keyboard that splits the keys up and puts them at natural hand-angles (if that makes sense?) - I don't know, do a GIS for "ergonomic keyboard" and you'll see what I mean.

For stress release, I find that GTA-type games and FPSes just give me more stress.  I think it's because I'm not that good at them.  My top pick for stress release is any of the games in the Dynasty Warriors/Samurai Warriors series.  Run out onto a battlefield with a sword and mow down a thousand or so Chinese/Japanese soldiers... all better!

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