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« on: August 20, 2007, 09:32:29 AM »
Another funny exam "horror story" - I talked to a girl who worked so long and hard on her outline - she had flowcharts, and everything was tabbed and cross-referenced, and color coded, and she even had it laminated - she was so proud. Then, she got to the exam, and she couldn't use it because the proctors were sure it was a commercial outline.
So maybe, keep it amateurish!
« on: August 20, 2007, 09:27:13 AM »
I'm sure you can "get by" without study aids. But do you want to "get by" or do you want to get As?
Some people could probably get As without study aids as well, so I'm not saying your friend is totally right. Here's what I used:
1. Whatever the professor recommended. For me, this was Farnsworth on Contracts, Dressler on Crim Law, Chemerinsky on Con Law, Blum's E&E for Contracts, and I think that's about it.
2. E&E. For every subject. Throughout the semester and before finals.
3. Crunch time. For every subject. Just before finals.
I don't recommend commercial outlines, commercial casebriefs, etc. The bulk of the benefit of outlines and briefs comes with making them, not having them.
« on: August 20, 2007, 09:21:08 AM »
I recommend it. I felt like it helped keep me focused, gave me a better understanding of the cases, and helped me be more prepared for class, which in turn helped me get more out of class, which in turn probably helped my grades.
But my number one rule remains: if it doesn't work for you, don't keep doing it.
« on: August 20, 2007, 09:17:26 AM »
If this thread is going to turn into a referendum on whether or not to brief cases, put me down in the pro-briefing camp.
« on: August 19, 2007, 01:28:50 PM »
There is more benefit gained from making an outline than from having an outline. If you make your own, you get both benefits. If you buy one, you only get the lesser benefit.
« on: August 19, 2007, 01:23:45 PM »
So, by that theory, there's no point to studying?
In theory, but that theory is wrong. It's a myth propagated by people who are bitter because they didn't get the grades they expected.
The bad news is, no matter how well you do, if a certain number of people do better than you, you can't get an A. That doesn't mean that you can't increase your chances of getting a good grade through hard work.
« on: August 18, 2007, 09:07:01 AM »
There's more to law than working for a big firm. What you're saying about big firms does square with what I've heard from other people about big firms. But there are a lot of other things you can do with a law degree. Our school hosted a panel of prosecutors and public defenders and every single one of them loved their jobs. You can also work for small firms, do solo practice, work for a court, work for a non-profit, clerk for a judge...
As far as anti-law books and websites... It's probably true that we have a glut of lawyers in this country. On the other hand, the market wouldn't support the number of lawyers we have if we didn't in some sense "need" them. I wouldn't worry about what somebody who wrote a book thinks. If you want to be a lawyer, go to school, work hard, do well, and be a lawyer. Research the various jobs, and don't do one you won't like. Or, if you don't want to be a lawyer, don't!
« on: August 18, 2007, 08:52:40 AM »
does every law school require students to read Buffalo creek as a first assignment or something?
Ours doesn't - they did recommend it as 0L summer reading, and I did read it, but it was not required.
« on: August 17, 2007, 09:37:46 PM »
I think if it's a habit you've gotten into in undergrad, it's probably doable in law school.
The biggest thing I would say to anyone is DO NOT stick with anything that doesn't work. If you try the exclusive library plan, and find yourself miserable, or behind, or both, try something else sooner rather than later. I've known people who have stuck to their plan or routine too long, because they were comfortable with it, even though they knew it wasn't working, and they suffered for it (gradewise). I've also known people who were able to change up their routine as soon as they realized it wasn't working, and they did well because of it.
If I recall correctly, I originally planned to do almost no studying in the library, but I quickly found that it worked better for me to do almost all my studying there. Be flexible!
« on: August 17, 2007, 09:27:53 PM »
Don't freak out then. It's a pretty quick read. Not sure how many pages it is, but you'll probably find it quicker, easier, and more enjoyable to read that entire book than to (properly) read any 50 pages out of any given casebook.
I guess the "more enjoyable" depends on what you're into, but the quicker and easier - for sure.
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