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General Board / Re: what do you think?
« on: September 12, 2007, 10:41:58 PM »
im reading the cases, not briefing the cases and not taking extensive notes in class.  i plan on studying the outlines i got from upperclassmen, and making my own version of it.  i plan on just studying these outlines and whatever notes i have, right from the beginning.  and then i plan on practicing exams as soon as im able to.

what do you think

Mainly, I think it doesn't matter what people say.  You know people are going to say "Oh it's a bad idea," "It won't work," "It might work, but probably not," etc.  Even though you already know this, you made up your mind.

So, you know, good luck.  It might work, but probably not.  If it doesn't, at least your As will go to a few of your classmates, so that's nice of you.  If it does work, then I guess stick with it.

Here's a piece of advice that I hope you do pay attention to: If you find that this strategy doesn't work, don't stick with it.  I've seen students do poorly fall semester, then do the same stuff spring semester, and, big surprise, do just as badly or worse.  It's foolish; avoid it.

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General Board / Re: what day should I pick for judicial clerkship interview?
« on: September 11, 2007, 10:11:13 PM »
Hello all,

I scheduled a time for my federal judicial clerkship interview. It is on the last day of interview period. Do you think I have put myself in a very disadvantageous position because judge will make an offer to those whom he interviewed earlier? Thanks a lot for your input!


If this isn't a total flame, then yes, you've screwed up big time. Congrats.

It's got to be a flame.  What kind of question is this?  The true purpose of this post was to let us all know that the poster got a federal judicial clerkship interview.  Good job.  Next time, either become comfortable bragging openly or don't brag at all - it's lame to disguise your brag as a nonsensical question. 

This reminds me of the people who post, "Hey, I got a 180/4.2, what schools could I get into?"  As though people will say, "sorry, HYS are looking for better numbers than those."  Right?  It's just a brag.

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Multiple Choice Exams
« on: September 07, 2007, 07:19:58 AM »
I use the Finals series and the Crunch Time series.  The multiple choice questions in Crunch Time are a subset of the multiple choice questions in another Emanuel's product, so that's good too.

As far as tips go, I would try to make sure you understand very well what words like "if," "unless," "only if," etc. mean in that context.  Also, read the questions very carefully.  For time management (and maybe you already know this from the LSAT, but) mark all your answers on the test itself, then, once you've answered them all, go back and put them on the bubble sheet all at once.  Doesn't save a ton of time, but every bit helps, especially if it's an exam that also has an essay component.  And be glad you don't have the prof I had for Contracts.  Some of his multiple choice questions had answer choices going up to "J"!

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right now as a 1L I fing that I don't have the energy to read all cases, so I read case briefs and I read the notes in the case books. If I brief every case myself, I would be reading 24/7. I also read commercial materials to understand things. So far I have no problem in class. But is this method really stupid? I do really want to do well.

There's no shame in finding out that you're not cut out to be a lawyer.  Most of my best friends are not cut out to be lawyers, and they will freely and happily admit it.  But you really want to be a lawyer!  So, find the energy to read all the cases!  I personally recommend briefing all the cases (especially as a 1L) but I wouldn't say it's absolutely necessary.  Reading all the cases is absolutely necessary.  I don't think there's anything wrong with reading commercial materials to supplement your understanding, but you really have to start with the cases themselves.

As somebody mentioned above, once you're working (which you hope will be next summer), you may have to do a lot of reading.  There will be no commercial materials.  That would be a heck of a time to learn these essential skills.  Better to learn it now.  Good luck!

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Crim Law Supplement
« on: September 06, 2007, 05:21:39 AM »
1 more for Dressler.

I don't think I used the E&E for Crim Law, but I used it for every other class, and they were all great, so I feel comfortable recommending it from Crim Law as well.

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Spell check on tests?
« on: September 06, 2007, 05:20:08 AM »
Dont worry about spelling.  My exams were atrocious in both spelling and grammar.  It did not matter.

I think this is the best answer.  Profs care that your exam is readable.  They don't care if you can spell or not - if you're close enough that they don't have to guess what you mean, I doubt they'll dock you.

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General Board / Re: Contracts
« on: September 06, 2007, 05:14:13 AM »
tag.  what's the best commercial outline for Ks?  my prof has never taught this class before at my school so i can't ask any older people
The best outline for Ks is the one you make.

The best commercial outline?  I couldn't possibly know.

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General Board / Re: Anybody handy? UCC question
« on: September 03, 2007, 10:40:02 PM »
You will probably get more points if you answer it like it's hard, but it's not hard.  The gist is this: "developer enters into a contract with an architect to design an office building. . . ."  That's all you need.  The K was not for blueprints, or any other good.  The K was for designing an office building.  Just because the money was due on delivery of the blueprints doesn't mean the developer was buying blueprints.

It's probable you'll get more points if you argue all sides - that is the usual way - but I've also had things come up on the exam where the prof was looking for a simple correct answer.  On my Ks II exam, there was one question where he gave me full points based on my first one or two sentences.  I didn't gain or lose anything for the rest of my answer.  He was looking for people to realize how easy it was.

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My briefs don't have "holding," "doctrinal reasoning," or "policy," so I'm not 100% sure.

Holding sounds like the rule to me.  Held, that minors may only enter into voidable contracts.  Held, that there is no tort of assault and battery by gross negligence.  These are holdings.

Doctrinal reasoning, I'm not sure.  It might be the reasoning the court uses in applying the rule/holding to the facts of the case to reach the result.  Or it might be the reasoning the court uses to reach the rule.

Policy is considering what the effects of the rule on society are going to be.  Sometimes judges try to avoid policy considerations, and just follow what they see the law says, and let the legislature worry about policy considerations.  Sometimes judges wrestle over competing policy considerations, and try to reach a decision that will have the best effect on society.

It might be helpful if you posted a sample brief...

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General Board / Re: Does briefing cases as a 1L = waste of time?
« on: August 20, 2007, 09:41:13 PM »
Btw, if you do case briefs correctly you won't be "tied to the brief" because you will have read the case in its entirety and the brief will simply bring you back to the cogent facts and law.  Your classmates' struggles likely just reflect the adjustment period that all 1L's go through. 

Yep.

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