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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Cardozo 90k / W & L 45k / BU
« on: March 25, 2008, 02:26:17 PM »
I am a W&L troll, but my honest opinion would be that W&L=BU when it comes to job opportunities in the NYC area. 

Martindale lists 13 associates in NY from W&L
Martindale lists 212 associates in NY from BU

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Can W&L students opt-out of the new 3L cirriculum and take a regular 3L year?

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Acceptances / Re: ASU + Scholarship vs. T14
« on: March 19, 2008, 06:17:52 PM »
T14

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I think the list of job placements might be incorrect. For instance, I see the spreadsheet as listing 2 Vandy grads at Howry in DC. But on their website I don't see Howry as having any associates from Vanderbilt in their DC office. Perhaps I checked the Howry website incorrectly?

Maybe they were already fired  :D

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What would the cost be to attend each school?

Around 13K for UGA and 33K for WF

That's a big difference. If I read your OP correctly, it sounds like you would be happy in GA or in NC. It's seems that both schools do well in BigLaw within their respective state. I don't think there is enough of an employment difference between Wake and UGA to warrent paying an extra 60k for Wake. Unless Wake comes through with a money offer, I would say go to UGA.

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So it is coming down to the big decision and was wondering if anyone could help me weigh the pros and cons of Wake and Georgia.  For a little background, I would like to stay in the Southeast and do not have a strong preference between Atlanta or the cities in North Carolina.  I am in state at Georgia and Wake has not offered any scholarships. I guess the big question is that in terms of opportunities after graduation, which school would position me better in their respective markets?  Thanks for the help.

What would the cost be to attend each school?

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titcr.

assuming you did not apply to Fordham, W&L. Illinois essentially has zero placement in the NYC area, while W&L has a much bigger footprint. Most W&L students dont go to NYC out of personal choice-- they want to stay in VA or NYC. But, with a class of like 120 people, it places at least 10-20% in nyc big law jobs. Illinois places exceedingly few people in NYC, and they are likely the top of their class or have some compelling connections/family connects there to make it happen.

Almost totally inaccurate.  W&L sends about 25% of their class to biglaw of any sort in any city.  They maybe send 5-10 students a year to NY state.

Here, class of 2006, 12 students in any jobs in NY/NJ/PA:
EDIT: 7 in NY state. About 5% of the class.
http://law.wlu.edu/deptimages/Career%20Planning/Class%20of%202006%20MASTER%20STATISTICAL%20REPORT%20_for%20Web_.pdf

True, Illinois does not have a big presence in NYC, but neither does W&L.

Good point. It's also important to note that those 7 who end up in NY state might not all be in BigLaw or even in the private sector. The information available supports the idea that neither W&L or Illinois is a decent choice for NYC.

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titcr.

assuming you did not apply to Fordham, W&L. Illinois essentially has zero placement in the NYC area, while W&L has a much bigger footprint. Most W&L students dont go to NYC out of personal choice-- they want to stay in VA or NYC. But, with a class of like 120 people, it places at least 10-20% in nyc big law jobs. Illinois places exceedingly few people in NYC, and they are likely the top of their class or have some compelling connections/family connects there to make it happen.

I don't see how you could support the contention that W&L is placing "at least 10-20%" of its class in NYC BigLaw each year. If it placed 15% of its class in NYC, that would be 20 students. Martindale shows a total of only 13 associates in NYC who went W&L.

it also looks like W&L is not much better than Illinois in terms of NYC placement- Illinois has 11 associates in NY. In truth, both schools are a really bad option for someone wanting NYC. 

Substantiate this with more evidence. Your one source of evidence does not provide enough support for your argument.  

LawFirmAddict had W&L sending 2 students in its entire class to NY BigLaw. That's about 1.5% of their class.

Can you think of a better source than these two? Do you have some way of showing that W&L has good placement in NY?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: this sucks..Yale vs. NYU full ride
« on: March 17, 2008, 10:51:09 PM »
Not a tough choice at all. Go to Yale

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titcr.

assuming you did not apply to Fordham, W&L. Illinois essentially has zero placement in the NYC area, while W&L has a much bigger footprint. Most W&L students dont go to NYC out of personal choice-- they want to stay in VA or NYC. But, with a class of like 120 people, it places at least 10-20% in nyc big law jobs. Illinois places exceedingly few people in NYC, and they are likely the top of their class or have some compelling connections/family connects there to make it happen.

I don't see how you could support the contention that W&L is placing "at least 10-20%" of its class in NYC BigLaw each year. If it placed 15% of its class in NYC, that would be 20 students. Martindale shows a total of only 13 associates in NYC who went W&L.

it also looks like W&L is not much better than Illinois in terms of NYC placement- Illinois has 11 associates in NY. In truth, both schools are a really bad option for someone wanting NYC. 

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