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Law School Applications / Re: Chances 4.0 166
« on: June 26, 2009, 10:14:59 AM »
Haha Wally, you beat me to it.

Please, please retake.  166 is a BAD score for those schools - it is BAD* - and with your GPA, not only are you in fantastic position to get into HLS if you bring your score up, but you will also be positioned to get a crapton of money at NYU and Berkeley.  We're talking about a retake that could be equivalent to a $120k+ scholarship.  RETAKE.  PLEASE.  If you do it in September, you can still apply this cycle.

Unless, of course, this WAS your retake, and your first score was much lower.  In which case, congrats on the score increase.  You are still not in great shape for NYU, although Berkeley loves high GPAs.  Applying ED will pretty much ensure that you do not get $$ except for loans, so as long as you are okay with that, then go for it.

* Please note: I recognize that a 166 is in the 94th percentile of LSAT scores, and that many people, including the paralegal sitting in the workspace next to mine at my firm, would punch a baby if it meant they would get a 166.  But given the OP's choice of schools, and her mindblowingly awesome GPA (which, from an Ivy, gets you 3x the points of a regular 4.0), a 166 will be nothing but disappointing and will only bring down her application.

Cool!  Glad it worked out so well.  Too many people get a lower-than-expected LSAT score and react like it's the end of the world.

I second what Mona Lisa wrote, except I'd add that you may have a shot at GULC if you absolutely kill the LSAT.

I'd also like to emphasize her point about transferring - do NOT plan on it whatsoever.  If you happen to end up with fabulous grades at the end of 1L, and the sacrifices (law review, professorial connections, etc.) are worth the bump in rank, then go for it.

Law School Applications / Re: numbers good softs bad
« on: June 25, 2009, 01:56:36 PM »
Soft factors are irrelevant everywhere except Yale.  You do actually have a shot at HLS, although Colubmia is totally the place to be.   ;D

I agree with Dash in that you can finesse your interests into softs.

Good luck!

Law School Applications / Re: ED and Scholarship
« on: June 25, 2009, 01:54:56 PM »
Yes, it absolutely hurts your chances.  I don't know your numbers, but unless you are extremely borderline, or money is not an issue at all, I'd highly recommend against applying ED.

Law School Applications / Re: 168 & 3.6 from Ivy
« on: June 24, 2009, 09:51:56 PM »
My first round, I had a 3.6 and a 166 from Yale, and was rejected from everywhere in the T14 except Cornell (and I didn't apply to Mich, Duke, or UVA).  I think there's actually quite a big difference between a 166 and a 168, but (this is going to sound harsh, but it's true) don't make the mistake of thinking that your soft factors set you apart.

I retook the LSAT, got a 173, and my results were outrageously different.

24-26.  Honestly, how often would you say you go to Vegas?  Once a month?  Twice a month?

I should've gone to school in SoCal, I guess.

Lovebutton, I hope you take this as a compliment rather than an insult, because that is how I mean it, but I immediately assumed he was talking to you until he mentioned SoCal.

haha, thats funny.  it's truly bizarre that i've never been to vegas.

I wanna join MAS!  I liked The Hangover too!
Haven't you always been a MASer, lovebutton?

No!  That was my first post!

I've seen it twice (the second time accidentally, long story), and a bunch of us just bought tickets to LV for the end of July.  Pre-OCI debauchery.

I got a summer job in Vegas, but was afraid to take it.  Will probably go within the next 12 months, but I think I will probably have very different items on my agenda than you will...

I wanna join MAS!  I liked The Hangover too!

Seconded on NU and Mich.  Mich is especially good at looking at the virtue of the whole applicant, beyond their numbers (which, IMO, explains why their US News rank is not higher, given the respect they garner in the legal profession).

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