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Can you retake the LSAT?

Law School Admissions / Re: Chances 4.0 166
« on: June 29, 2009, 11:56:37 AM »
A friend of mine who is also a 166/4.0 from an Ivy got into Penn this past cycle. She also got WLd at HLS and CLS. I know she was really frustrated with her cycle as it was progressing, but is pretty thrilled to be in at Penn.

Yeah, Penn is fantastic.  While this is a great outcome, if she had a chance to retake and score higher before the cycle began, she not only may have gotten into HLS and CLS (CLS with money), but may have still been able to go to Penn, just with a full (or large) scholarship.

Any way you slice it, a retake is a good idea.

Law School Admissions / Re: Chances 4.0 166
« on: June 26, 2009, 01:29:56 PM »
Thanks for the advice, this was my first time taking. I was consistently practicing testing in the 170's but completely choked on the June 09's games section. I cant' stand the prospect of having to study another few weeks for the LSAT, but maybe I'll just suck it up and do it. Assuming scholarship money isn't of that much concern, do you thinking Berkley or NYU ed are possibilities though?

Suck it up and retake.  You'll thank me next year.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: give it to me straight
« on: June 26, 2009, 10:31:46 AM »
Even if you came from an ivy, a 158 would probably not get you into a T14.  Take a prep course and retake the test.

Law School Admissions / Re: Chances? Retake?
« on: June 26, 2009, 08:20:37 AM »
Your softs don't really matter, unfortunately.

You have a good shot at Cornell, although if you think there's a chance you could do better on the LSAT I definitely recommend a retake.  Unless you are comfortable with zero financial aid from Cornell, do not apply ED.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 166, 4.0 -- Chances
« on: June 26, 2009, 07:32:04 AM »
Ah, that's rough.  It's frustrating to put so much effort into a test only to perform the exact same, especially when your GPA is so awesome.

Unfortunately, your excellent softs really don't matter all that much for most places, although you should consider throwing in an app at UMich, where you may also have a decent chance.  I say this so often that I sound like a broken record, but Mich has an excellent reputation for considering the whole candidate, apart from their LSAT (which is why they are not ranked higher).  You may also look at NU or GULC (although I think GULC prefers LSAT to GPA).  If I were you, I'd also throw in an app to Boalt (they love GPAs) even though the LSAT makes it a longshot.

What other advice/opinions were you looking for?  If you weren't insistent on not taking the test again, I'd tell you "Third time's a charm..."

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Well, i'm retaking
« on: June 26, 2009, 07:24:18 AM »
I did testmasters and liked it a lot.

Do you mean you got in for fall 2009?  And, may I ask, what was your score?  I am pretty bummed about mine...but it was in the top 87th for some strange reason. 


Sounds like the OP is talking about taking the June 2008 LSAT, and getting into Toledo for Fall 2008.

Law School Admissions / Re: Chances 4.0 166
« on: June 26, 2009, 07:14:59 AM »
Haha Wally, you beat me to it.

Please, please retake.  166 is a BAD score for those schools - it is BAD* - and with your GPA, not only are you in fantastic position to get into HLS if you bring your score up, but you will also be positioned to get a crapton of money at NYU and Berkeley.  We're talking about a retake that could be equivalent to a $120k+ scholarship.  RETAKE.  PLEASE.  If you do it in September, you can still apply this cycle.

Unless, of course, this WAS your retake, and your first score was much lower.  In which case, congrats on the score increase.  You are still not in great shape for NYU, although Berkeley loves high GPAs.  Applying ED will pretty much ensure that you do not get $$ except for loans, so as long as you are okay with that, then go for it.

* Please note: I recognize that a 166 is in the 94th percentile of LSAT scores, and that many people, including the paralegal sitting in the workspace next to mine at my firm, would punch a baby if it meant they would get a 166.  But given the OP's choice of schools, and her mindblowingly awesome GPA (which, from an Ivy, gets you 3x the points of a regular 4.0), a 166 will be nothing but disappointing and will only bring down her application.

Cool!  Glad it worked out so well.  Too many people get a lower-than-expected LSAT score and react like it's the end of the world.

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