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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: GMU Waitlist
« on: July 29, 2006, 10:58:58 AM »
Did you speak to them since the last time? I'll hold out though -- till I get in. I may not have my expectations very high but still...Cheers and Thanks.

Yes, I communicated with them since my earlier post. I guess, I somewhat misunderstood the admissions director during our first conversation. I swear that she indicated (the last time we spoke) that they expected to pretty much have a set class by the end of July, and that while an August admit was possible, it was unlikely that more than a few people would be admitted. Instead, it looks like this week will be the last major WL review (as far as I can tell) and that they'll try to accomodate additional WL applicants up until orientation (Aug. 18) if others should relinquish their seats. Good luck, and let's pray for the best.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: GMU Waitlist
« on: July 27, 2006, 05:09:37 PM »
I'm not sure if there's an exact day; however, according to the admissions director at GMU, they're going back to waitlist "early next week". She added that they probably will try to make offers up to the start of orientation, but I don't think I can hold out much longer than next week. Anyway, here's praying that we both get the call next week and will be classmates together in the next few weeks.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Top 100 vs. tier 3.
« on: July 27, 2006, 01:23:21 PM »
What about low tier 1 vs tier 2?  There is a small chance I could make it into a school in the bottom of the top 50 (again, according to the lsac calculator). 

Once again, a few spaces isn't going to make a difference. If you go to UConn (50) over Temple (58) because of US News but you want to work in Philly, you're not making a wise decision. Your best move outside of the top 14 is to find the region or a region where you'd like to work and go to the school with the best reputation if you want to work for one of the better firms or take the money at a lesser regarded school if prestige is less of a concern to you.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Top 100 vs. tier 3.
« on: July 27, 2006, 12:12:17 PM »
Ok, that brings up a few more questions.  First, where would rankings that would be a good determinate other than U.S. News be?  Also, how do the rankings effect job opportunities other than Biglaw?  Although I'm not ruling that idea out, I think I'm more intrested in something such as a lobbying firm.  I'm really into politics, but not really Ecstatic about the pay that the government provides. 

Lawnecon, I see that you crossed Richmond off your list.  Any reason why?  I am looking into applying there. 

Well, I don't know if there are any set "official" rankings for how well a school is regarded in a certain region, but there usually is an informal pecking order in a city or region that might not precisely reflect the US News rankings. For example, in LA (according to many folks on this board), Southwestern has a better reputation than Pepperdine. Even though Pepperdine is ranked 80 something and SW is third tier. In DC, some people say Catholic has a better network of alumni than the much higher ranked American. However, usually, the US News ranking are pretty accurate.

The rankings tend to be most important in regard to big law, and you'll have to go to a pretty elite school (or have an amazing career) to have a shot at academia. Also, some of the better public interest sorts of jobs tend to prefer candidates from better school (the ACLU comes to mind). If you just want to work for a small firm in your home town, it probably doesn't matter too much (though regional name recognition could help). I don't know too much about lobbying.

I decided not to stay on the Richmond waitlist because Villanova is a better school with access to a larger region. Richmond is nice, but you pretty much have to stay in the area at least for a little while after graduation.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Top 100 vs. tier 3.
« on: July 27, 2006, 11:26:24 AM »
It depends. The "Top 100" covers a broad range of schools, and there are plenty of schools that jump back and forth between the low second tier and the third tier (Syracuse, Catholic, DePaul, Marquette, etc.) Most of these school tend to be a bit better than the permanent third tier schools and those that are on the border between 3 and 4.

It's hard to say - I turned down a third tier school with a half tuition scholarship (Syracuse) to pay the full boat to attend Villanova (currently #60). It wasn't necessarily because Nova is much better ranked, but because it's a stronger contender in the Philly/mid-Atlantic area. Syracuse, on the other hand, doesn't feed directly into any major city. Graduates do get jobs in NYC, but there's a lot of competition from better regarded schools in the city.

I think location should be a prime concern. If you're interested in working in NYC and you get a great scholarship from New York Law School and nothing from say Villanova or UConn, you'd probably be wise to head to the lower ranked school. If it's between no money at Fordham and some assistance at NYLS, it's a tougher call. If you want big law, it's probably better to go to the best school you can into in the region you want to work (not necessarily based upon US News rankings).

I don't know too much about either school, but from what I've heard (from this board and elsewhere), SW grads actually tend to have an easier time gaining employment than Pepperdine graduates. It probably has something to do with the school's proximity to the city, but when you're at least competitive with the grads from a pretty well ranked school like Pepperdine, you're probably in good shape. You might want to search for some old Pepperdine threads to verify this.

Best of luck either way.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: GMU Waitlist
« on: July 24, 2006, 07:04:25 PM »
Thanks again, sir.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: GMU Waitlist
« on: July 24, 2006, 01:43:37 PM »
It would be nice if it just happened to be us, though  :)

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Waitlist and Loans
« on: July 22, 2006, 03:46:44 PM »
I recently received notice from the school that I'll likely attend that my bill for first semester tuition will be due by the second week of August. I'm pretty sure that I'll know for certain by then (or a bit before) whether or not I'll get off the waitlist at my school of choice. However, that will only leave a one to two week gap for to pay the bill and execute my Stafford loans. Does that window seem to small to anyone else?

We were told back in April not to execute loans until we were certain that we planned on enrolling at a certain school. Is anyone else risking paying a late fine in order to wait for a wailist admit to the (near) bitter end, or have the rest of you waitlist hopefuls simply executed your loans and prepared to attend your likely school with the intent of backing out later and dealing with the mess should you get called from a waitlist?

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: GMU Waitlist
« on: July 22, 2006, 09:45:47 AM »
Thanks, Rod - Now, listless and I can duke it out in the street for the spot j/k  ;)

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