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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Syracuse or UCONN?
« on: April 11, 2006, 07:45:12 PM »
Every other stat favors UConn, but the one they tie on you give the edge to the 'Cuse?  Stop the agony and enroll at Syracuse.

I know, I know...I'm just driving myself crazy...

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Syracuse or UCONN?
« on: April 11, 2006, 07:33:41 PM »
those seem, if they are accurate photos, VERY, cheesy law school rooms...esp for the price id pay as out of state...that's WAY below what I would, one or two of the rooms look nice, but jeez....

It IS a state school. And state schools don't seem to have quite the facilities as private schools (this is just my experience from four different undergrad schools, plus campus visits to law schools). But like BrownsFan said, you can't forget about bar passage rates, salary info, etc.

From US News:

'04 grads employed at graduation:
UCONN = 62%
Syracuse = 67.5%

'04 grads employed 9 months after graduation:
UCONN = 96.4%
Syracuse = 92.7%

Schools bar passage rate and jurisdiction's overall bar passage rate:
UCONN = 93.8% (CT) vs. 82% overall
Syracuse = 76% (NY) vs. 75% overall

peer assessment score:
UCONN = 2.9
Syracuse = 2.4

assessment score by lawyers/judges:
UCONN = 3.1
Syracuse = 3.1

I think that last figure may be important. Lawyers and judges are going to be the ones hiring us when we graduate. And the two schools have the same score.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Syracuse or UCONN?
« on: April 11, 2006, 07:18:41 PM »
I liked 'cuse...if that last comment was meant for me...

I know you did, otherwise you wouldn't have such a hard decision to make. :) The quote was from ajstyles. Not sure why my quotes never show who I am quoting. What am I doing wrong?

Delay law school a year, get CT residency +financial aid?

This is definitely not an option for me because my job would surely kill me first. Plus I am getting older, and ideally I'd like to have kids before I'm 35, so I need to get going on law school. As it is I'll be 30 when I graduate.

but i sometimes wonder if 'the better' school outranks all of those other things....oy

I hear ya. The rankings make you crazy. UCONN is 50, and Syracuse is tier 3. It is something to think about.

Just seeking some advice as to the highest-ranked schhols at which I stand at least a decent shot of ANY amount of scholarship dough.

What schools are you interested in? And do you have any particular area of law that you're interested in? Some schools have scholarship money earmarked for people who intend to pursue certain concentrations (for example, Case has special scholarship money for people who intend to do health law). I don't know if that's helpful.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Syracuse or UCONN?
« on: April 11, 2006, 05:18:53 PM »
most of the student body lives in those houses around campus and just walk.

That makes sense...not sure if I can picture myself living in one of those houses, though. I want a nice apartment all to myself.

The debt thing really freaks me out, though. Actually, the reason that I applied to law school in the first place is because I found out that you could potentially go for free with a merit scholarship. By free I mean the tuition, not living expenses or anything. Anyway, last June I was hating my job and thinking about going to grad school. I wanted to go to grad school so that I could have a job that I enjoyed and so I could earn more money. Unfortunately the areas that I was thinking of (teaching, social work) do not pay so well. And it was hard to rationalize taking out all those student loans just to graduate with a degree that got me maybe an extra $15K a year in salary.

So then my ex was saying that the most cost effective graduate degree is law school. He was talking about my personal situation and interests, so take that statement with a grain of salt - I'm sure there are many other degrees that would mean a big payoff in the end. But the point was, if I could get the tuition paid for (or mostly paid for), then the debt would be reasonable. I don't want to do BigLaw, so I don't see myself with a job that pays enough to make the debt go away within a few years of graduation. I have gotten sidetracked by the rankings a little. Yes, UCONN is a better school than Syracuse in terms of rankings. But Syracuse comes with a much cheaper price tag, and that is huge for me.

Plus I sent my $400 to Syracuse, and I am pretty psyched to start there. I really just need Saturday to come so that it's too late to change my mind.  :)

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Syracuse or UCONN?
« on: April 11, 2006, 03:22:46 PM »
You're 27!

Yup, I'm old. :)

So I drove down to UCONN (finally!) today after work and drove around the campus. And by drove around the campus, I mean I drove a square around the block that the law school is on. It was a little disappointing to me. The buildings look gorgeous from the outside, but kind of imposing. From my short drive I determined two things: (1) there may be a serious shortage of parking, judging by the number of cars parked on the streets around the school; and (2) there isn't much there in terms of places to eat lunch, have coffee, etc. I think that I'd feel trapped on campus all day. So I think I can let the UCONN deadline pass without sending them a deposit.

Back to the age thing, though. If I were, say, five years younger then I don't think the debt would be such a big deal. But I would like to have kids, and I don't want to be struggling with the cost of raising kids, a mortgage, and over $100K of debt all at the same time. So it's off to Syracuse for me. It's kind of like FSUGeoff's situation - in the end, it would just cost too much to go to UCONN.

As for me, I'll be sending my SOLE deposit tomorrow, dont know where yet, though...ugh

Good luck with your decision, Chonralda - they are both great schools with their own advantages and disadvantages.

Choosing the Right Law School / Syracuse or UCONN?
« on: April 11, 2006, 09:49:59 AM »
I sent my deposit to Syracuse, but now I am wondering if I should go to UCONN instead, and I only have a few days left before the UCONN deposit is due - please help!!

Here is my situation: I have no financial aid from UCONN. I had a situation with my taxes and didn't get to file until March because I was waiting for some forms. Long story. So I will not be getting any aid from UCONN or Syracuse. I do live in Mass, so I would get the New England compact state rate at UCONN for the first year, and after that in-state tuition. So based on UCONN's estimates, I'll neet to borrow $110K over three years to go there. I have a $27,800 a year scholarship at Syracuse, so if I keep that for all three years I'd need to borrow about $65K over three years. So UCONN would definitely cost a lot more.

I don't want to do BigLaw, so paying back the debt won't be very easy and is a big concern. I am 27, and I'd like to be able to buy a house shortly after getting out of school, so the less debt the better.

Please help!

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: UConn Open House Notes
« on: April 11, 2006, 09:36:37 AM »
why is that so important for you l? is it to have other things to do, more ppl around??

I think it would be nice to be able to meet some people who aren't law students. But maybe that wouldn't happen anyway.

Also, since the UCONN law school is all by its lonesome, it would be a pain to have to drive around if you were doing a double degree thing.

Wow, Hippie, that's a great story. Your boss sounds amazing, and you obviously worked very hard in school. Congrats on law school.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: UConn Open House Notes
« on: April 10, 2006, 08:02:30 PM »
laurrk - dont you live close to uconn? Really, really, go look at the place!

Yeah, I live in Springfield, so UCONN is probably 25 minutes away. I might go drive by the campus tomorrow night. I can't get as excited about going to a law school that's not part of a larger college campus, I guess. I don't know what to do.

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