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General Board / Re: So what now
« on: January 14, 2009, 12:36:20 PM »
1. You're doomed for a paying 1L job. However, you can hook on with a good summer externship. DO THIS. You can get six credits and good legal experience. Otherwise, try to ingratiate with some professors this semester and try and RA while taking classes this summer.

There are plenty of paying legal jobs for a student with his grades...

PM matthies because I'm far too lazy to deal with this.


I'm familiar with the OP's school and the job market for 1Ls both traditionally at that school and currently. Usually, it is difficult for 1Ls in the top 30% of the class to get paying jobs. The OP is not even sniffing the 50th percentile. You may have faith- I prefer giving more solid, fact-based advice.

Non-Traditional Students / Re: new with questions
« on: January 14, 2009, 09:59:48 AM »
I'd rob banks, that's where the money is.

Oh, wait, not so much now, huh? I *love me* the new economy. Perhaps there's some other ways to get those scarce funds?

General Board / Re: So what now
« on: January 13, 2009, 10:32:24 PM »
Aw, hell. Let's be more specific with the advice:

1. You're doomed for a paying 1L job. However, you can hook on with a good summer externship. DO THIS. You can get six credits and good legal experience. Otherwise, try to ingratiate with some professors this semester and try and RA while taking classes this summer.

2. Join some stud. organizations and become an enthusiastic board member. Choose ones that network well- ACS (liberal), Federalists (Conservative), LS Dems or Repubs, Business Law, Real Property Group. It's not much, but it's something.

3. LEARN THE BLUE BOOK. NOW! You can still get on LR through the competition. They'll be info sessions soon; this will be huge. Also try to get on to moot court (either the main or that silly int'l one- Jessup?).

4. Do better next semester. Learn from your mistakes. Find the good students in your section and join a study group with them. Go to the law review tutoring sessions. Use the E&Es.

Hope this helps.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Exile LSD: enough spaghetti for everyone
« on: January 13, 2009, 10:21:24 PM »
ion: I'm going to some family friend's house tomorrow for tacos.  Fish and shrimp tacos.  Dammit karma!

A lot o' people don't realize what's really going on. They view life as a bunch o' unconnected incidents 'n things. They don't realize that there's this, like, lattice o' coincidence that lays on top o' everything. Give you an example; show you what I mean: suppose you're thinkin' about fish and shrimp tacos. Suddenly someone'll say, like, fish, or shrimp tacos, or fish and   shrimp tacos out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconsciousness. . . screw the shrimp tacos, lets go get sushi and not pay.

General Board / Re: So what now
« on: January 13, 2009, 10:17:39 PM »
1. Necro- Don't be so coy! You're going to be UF; be proud to be a gator.

2. UF's curve is variable; I believe it is 3.25 as a max, but varies from 3.15 - 3.25 at discretion. It can be waived if class is under 25 at can be adjusted for upper level courses that are over-enrolled with high-gpa students (Conflict of Laws, fer instance).

3. Here's the basic way to determine your grades as a 1L at Levin:
A: Awesome! You, and maybe nine of your classmates, got one of these.
B+: Above average; solid.
B: Meh.
C+: You, sir, angered the teacher.
C: You should be thankful they don't fail people at this school.
Anything lower than a C: nearly unheard of. You would probably have to poop on the professor's  podium during the single class you attend, and then pee on your bluebook to get lower than a C.

In short- all Bs are not very good. Do a search for previous class percentiles and you'll get an idea as to what top 10-25-33% finish with.
Traditionally, the top third have a 3.4 gpa.
The top 10% have a 3.65 gpa.

Not sure how minus grades are going to affect all this.

General Board / Re: Do Post-Exam Feelings Correlate Well with Grades?
« on: January 13, 2009, 08:50:31 PM »
Grades are inversely proportional to effort.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Exile LSD: enough spaghetti for everyone
« on: January 13, 2009, 08:04:57 PM »
Naw- just start in on an 8-ball. You'll be good to go through tomorrow. That's how the law review gunners roll!

Where should I go next fall? / Re: 3.6/148
« on: January 13, 2009, 05:38:27 PM »
I have been told that if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing.

Here's my advice:

General Board / Re: What has the biggest impact on 1L grades?
« on: January 13, 2009, 05:31:26 PM »
So here's my story about how I got my first kick-azz book award in my ConLaw class. Read it weep while I bring the pain. It seems like only yesterday . . .

I looked at my syllabus the other day and noticed that we had aour ConLaw take-home exam due today on how the different parts of the Constitution work together- something about separate powers of civil federalism or something. Boy, good thing I picked that up the first day of class! Anyway, it was really hard to look at the Constitution and read cases and things, but I thought about how the Constitution impacts my life, and it all became clear to me.

The Second Amendment protects our right to Bear Arms. Then there's the First Amendment right to free speech. Finally, I once heard a classmate remark that the Supreme Court had expanded the Bill of Rights with the Incorporation doctrine and made it apply to more than just the Federal Government.

So I wrote that the interplay of these different areas of the Constitution gave rise to the following: giant mecha robots are allowed to have Bear Arms (and if you're a commie activist judge that legislates from the bench, Lion Arms and Rocket Arms and Ab0rtion Arms) and then corporations are allowed to broadcast footage of their battles to me without government regulation. Which means that I can watch japanime on the cartoon network while eating fruity pebbles in my pajamas instead of going to class! I threw in some opinions, including some dissenting ones by 'Learned Hand', but I wrote that the 'Learned Hand' ones didn't mean as much because it was a pseudonym judges use when they are embarrassed by the opinion they wrote (like 'Alan Smithee' for directors).

When I was leaving class, I told a classmate about what I wrote. The classmate told me he was the TA (who knew?... I guess I should show up for more classes) and that 'drunk and stupid is no way to go through ConLaw'. I don't get it. Do you think he hates me because in the other class I showed up for I said I was a Federalist and because the Constitution doesn't specifically enumerate the Democrat party in Article I, they should be banned by the Supreme Court, like they did with the Whigs?

Anyway, remembering that made me think about the following three things in retrospect:
1. Man, I pwned that exam! Stupid TA! Don't worry about that fancy book-learnin'- the cartoon network is much better than the Chemerisnky supplement.
2. The less you show up for a class, the more likely you are to BOOK IT (booking is just all legal like for PWNAGE). If professors get to know who you are, they'll learn to dislike you, and they'll blind grade your sorry, snivelling gunner azz down. Be anonyomous and all hidden and stuff and those books belong to you!
3. If I had written about the 4th Amendment and epilepsy instead, do you think I could have gotten two book awards from ConLaw? Like, serious pwnage?

Hope this helps. All ur law schools r belong to me!

Where should I go next fall? / Re: UF 3L - Will Answer Questions
« on: January 13, 2009, 02:25:12 PM »
There's an old joke about UF OCI (that's the office that helps place students with jobs)-  they can place you as far south as Miami, as far east as Orlando, as far west as Tampa, and as north as Atlanta!

That's not really true any more. I would say that they remain incredibly strong in Florida and Atlanta (Atlanta is practically a secondary market). We have also begun to place increasing numbers of students in the DC area and, to a lesser extent, in some Charlotte firms. I think the DC emphasis largely arises from the great admin/environmental programs UF has and he number of students who go to DC to work for the firms doing government and regulatory work. I know a large number of my classmates that are working in DC.

I believe that you if you do well at UF, and work at it, you have a good shot at the at DC market. We have an increasing number of alums in the area. BUT- remember it is not a primary market for us; you have to do reasonably well. If you know you want to practice in DC, you might be better served at a different school.

In addition, if you want to work in NYC/LA/Houston, you will need to make you own opportunities. Every year we have several students who go to those markets, but they made it on their own.

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