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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: My turn for a list of schools
« on: August 14, 2006, 03:55:28 PM »
You should keep at least one safety school since the gap between your "likely" schools and your "safety" schools is pretty wide. Not sure if you wanted to work while in law school, but look into part-time/night school if you dont mind graduating in 4 years. I know SMU has a good night program and you will be in classes with more nontrad students as opposed to the day time. Also, look into Vandy if you dont mind the Nashville area. If you know what area of Texas you want to live in, then go to a school in that area if you dont get into UT.

SMU is BIG in Dallas.
Houston is BIG in Houston.
Tech has a decent presence in Fort Worth.
St. Mary's is OK for the San Antonio legal market.
South College is getting better in Houston.

Since you have a high LSAT and low GPA, you must widen your applications. I got rejected at a tier 4 school, accepted at a top 40 school and waitlisted at a top 20 never know what to expect. Plus, pay attention to scholarship offers, rankings are one thing, but getting out of school as an older student debt free is quite another. Good luck!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: LORs
« on: August 14, 2006, 03:45:09 PM »
Depends...if a lot has changed in your life (ie accomplishments, jobs, etc) then you should get LORs. While I think its OK to use one of your old LORs, I think you should strive for another one from a boss or someone else. When I reapplied, I completely changed my application and had new LORs written. Not sure what made the difference at the schools I got rejected at first and then admitted, but it worked.

Law School Admissions / Re: LSAT retake question
« on: August 14, 2006, 03:41:25 PM »
Honestly I doubt that the law school will care....even if you do cancel. If your score and creds are good enough to get you in without any LSAT improvement, then the school will admit you. The ad com is not going to think, "Gee, I would have admitted this person, but since he/she took the LSAT again and canceled, we should reject him/her." If you are trying for Harvard or Yale, then this might be something to worry about; but most schools are not trying to look at stuff in your file to reject you...they are looking at stuff in your file to accept you. Just my take.

Law School Admissions / Re: Texas Tech Fall 2006
« on: May 20, 2006, 12:46:32 PM »

Hey MJ - How are things going at Baylor?

I actually decided to go to SMU, but it is alright overall. I am actually considering transfering to Tech to save tuition money, but I will have to see after grades come out. How is Tech?

Tech is great - see my previous posts on this thread were I talk about a lot of the great aspects - but I do think that SMU gives you a better shot at most DFW jobs (PM me if you want to talk more about your specifics)

I'm looking to transfer myself though - probably Georgetown since I was accepted there based on 1st semester grades, and since ConLaw just PWN3D my a$$ GPA may not get me in to anywhere better that Gtown now(though I may still apply elsewhere). I love tech, but as I've said on here before, I want to teach, and I believe Gtown opens more doors than Tech in that arena. If I wanted to be a lawyer I would stay here at tech...and so I can highly recommend it to you would save about 40K coming here...but like I said feel free to pm me about specifics if you like...

Congrats on Gtown, I didnt know that you can transfer after first semester grades, but I discovered that too late. I will probably just bite the bullet and stay at SMU regardless, but if tech offers a scholarship i might consider.

Sorry, I meant that after you are accepted and enroll, there are no scholarships (meaning if you are a second year and you do well, there are no scholarships for upper law students). The restriction on the transfer from part-time to full-time is not because of hours, SMU just never allows part-timers to transfer to the full-time program. It is just policy up here.

Does any one have any info on the part time program there (SMU)?  Would I have a better chance of getting scholarship money part-time there, or a lower ranked school like Pepperdine, Penn State, or Richmond?

Scholarship funds at SMU are limited, so if you didnt get when after your acceptance, you probably dont have one. SMU is also big law oriented, and with the debt you accure, you are probably going to have to start off in a corporate firm just to pay off your loan. Another thing to consider, SMU does not allow people to transfer from the evening program to the day program.

Law School Admissions / Re: Texas Tech Fall 2006
« on: May 20, 2006, 11:03:44 AM »


There's a penalty on top of the $150 filing fee? My indecisiveness is gonna cost me so much money  :-\. Do you know how long you can wait?

It sucks because it has to be filed in the first few weeks (I think before Oct. 1). I was late because there were a lot of requirements.....finding references that would actually have to fill stuff out, getting finger printed, and filling out all that stupid paper work.

Law School Admissions / Re: Texas Tech Fall 2006
« on: May 20, 2006, 11:01:04 AM »


Hey MJ - How are things going at Baylor?

I actually decided to go to SMU, but it is alright overall. I am actually considering transfering to Tech to save tuition money, but I will have to see after grades come out. How is Tech?

Law School Admissions / Re: Texas Tech Fall 2006
« on: May 18, 2006, 07:42:21 AM »
On a more serious note, I'm a little worried about the Declaration of Intent to Study Law that we have to file by October 1st if we want to take the Texas Bar... Does anyone know if we don't file it, if we'll ever be able to take the Texas bar? I've never been to Texas.. How am I supposed to know if I want to practice there!

You can hold off on filing your declaration of intention but you will have to pay an additional penalty (I think around $150). TX has an early requirement so they have enough time to do checks on you.

Henj, thank you so much for your advice! An assistant position with a solo-practice lawyer would be perfect for me, I'm definitely not counting on any big firm stuff. Could you tell me more about how you were able to find that job? A job at the government in Washington DC is a possibility. I would have to move all the way to East coast, which is not that convenient, but still a possibility, I guess. I should look into that too. Thank's for the advice!

I actually live right now in the city of Seattle, Washington State (that's Pacific Northwest, not Washington D.C.). It's a medium/largish size city, so there's plenty of firms and private legal practices. I should be able to find something. All the ideas about how to look for an internship are very helpful!

I had a similar situation and had to wait a year to reapply. I had low LSATs and didnt apply to any real safety schools. I went a bit extreme and moved from Texas to DC and found obtained an internship at an NGO. While interning in the first three months, I retook the LSAT and increased my score. I also found a job at a large law firm and became a conflicts/new business assistant.

I found the job on a whim: looked to and sent a letter and resume to every law firm that had a DC office. I only received one phone call out of the 75 letters I sent and got the job the next day. I worked at the internship and the law firm at the same time, so I was definitely busy.

This was all well worth it because when I reapplied, I was accepted at two law schools that rejected me the year before and my current law school actually highlighted my work in the law firm and internship in my acceptance letter. Even though I increased my LSAT score, I only had a 10-20% chance of getting accepted per Chiasu.

A lot is based on luck, so definitely apply to as many law firms as you can. I initially applied as a "paralegal," but the firm only needed a conflicts assistant. I didn't do much "legal" stuff, but I gained exposure to a large law firm and I made many contacts. Good luck.

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