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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Temple v. Top 25 School?
« on: December 26, 2006, 08:40:11 PM »
Well you are right about not knowing how you will do in the law school setting, you will be competing against people who have also been used to be the best academically. If you KNOW you want to live in Philly after you graduate and Temple has given you a full scholarship or something close, you should choose Temple. While there is no guarantee you will be in the top 25%, money will not be an issue for you once you graduate. BU will open more doors generally but I dont think it will open more doors than Temple would in the Philly area.

That said, I think going to school at Temple will be more difficult than going to school at BU. Being in the top 25% is more important in Temple than at BU, therefore people will be working harder to be in the top. I chose a higher ranking school over a school that offered a scholarship....today I think I would choose the school with the scholarship.

Well for one the school I chose was private so the tuition was really high. Additionally I wasnt in the top 1/3rd of the class so my chances at a big law firm job was severly diminished. I did participate in OCI and had a number of interviews, but again my GPA put me out of reach for most firms. Additionally, I had a callback at a firm from my hometown which would have occured even if I went to the local third tier which would have provided me with instate tuition plus scholarship.

With the disadvantages of the lower ranked school that you cited (ie. having to do better to get the good job, less doors being open, etc.) what is it that would compel you to make that choice today, exactly?

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Temple v. Top 25 School?
« on: December 26, 2006, 10:04:44 AM »
Well you are right about not knowing how you will do in the law school setting, you will be competing against people who have also been used to be the best academically. If you KNOW you want to live in Philly after you graduate and Temple has given you a full scholarship or something close, you should choose Temple. While there is no guarantee you will be in the top 25%, money will not be an issue for you once you graduate. BU will open more doors generally but I dont think it will open more doors than Temple would in the Philly area.

That said, I think going to school at Temple will be more difficult than going to school at BU. Being in the top 25% is more important in Temple than at BU, therefore people will be working harder to be in the top. I chose a higher ranking school over a school that offered a scholarship....today I think I would choose the school with the scholarship.

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Ask the folks on XOXOHTH.com...they are the "experts" on what is and isn't "prestigious."  ::)

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Law School Admissions / Re: In at SMU full time
« on: December 20, 2006, 09:58:55 PM »
Congrats on the acceptances! SMU is a great school with many awesome profs. Plus if you want to practice law in the Dallas area, you will have a great standing with the big law firms in the area. Remember, the firms here pay out the same as the NYC and LA firms do but the COL here is MUCH lower!  ;D

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: so this question if for current 1Ls.
« on: December 15, 2006, 08:38:25 PM »
Rule 11...enough said

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: so this question if for current 1Ls.
« on: December 15, 2006, 05:27:39 PM »
To follow up, make sure you talk to 2Ls and 3Ls at your school midway through the semester. They will provide valuable insight on what to expect for the examination. Most law schools have a mentorship program of some sort so utilize those people. Also, ask around for old notes and outlines for your class. Most professors rarely diverge from their lecturing script, even if the notes are based on an older edition of the book. These "bibles" for each class are great because you can focus more in class without worrying about notetaking and won't have to brief each case sentence by sentence. Get the bible for each class asap if you can b/c the bible is really worthless on the exam itself, it's just valuable for class.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: HELP!!! Where to apply?!?!
« on: December 15, 2006, 05:20:25 PM »
Not for a 150, but the OP said the LSAT score was 150ish...

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: so this question if for current 1Ls.
« on: December 15, 2006, 12:31:28 PM »
Too many factors to consider to answer your question and it might depend on the person. Some people can read the entire book, attend every class, and study nonstop and still only get a C. Others can barely show up to class, never read, and just study commerical outlines and practice tests and rock an A. It will depend on the class, professor, and you personally. The hardest thing about 1L is finding the perfect studying tactics. Reading will only help you in class, for most classes the reading does nothing for exam purposes.

For example, the typical law school text book will have an intro page about some legal concept and then will follow up with a case. Then there will be a "notes" section that will comprise of legal scholars posing different views on what the case is about and the rest will be open ended questions with no answers. Depending on your prof, you may get asked these questions in class or he/she will answer the questions posed during lecture. Most of the time, the professor will ask their own questions or issues and express their own scholarly opinions about the topic. Most classes you will not need to know the case law...just the black letter law (so that is where the reading might be pointless). Classes like Con Law will require you to know the case law, so that would be the kind of class you would read for. There might be some "major" caselaw you will need to know so reading the case might be important, but the professor will probably let you know what part of the case is relevant now and for exam purposes.

Short answer - reading everything and anything the professor assigns will not guarantee you an A or the top of the curve. Personally I read one thing and it goes in one ear and out the other. I do read everything the professor assigns, but I spend most of my time preparing outlines and reading supplements on stuff I don't understand. Just go into law school thinking that you will read everything and adjust as you feel necessary.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: HELP!!! Where to apply?!?!
« on: December 15, 2006, 12:16:44 PM »
The schools in your LSN account are definitely a "reach" (american and brookln might be considered a match). For safety schools, pick a region you dont mind living in for a couple of years after school. A safety school for will be 3rd or 4th tier. However, do not not apply to your reach schools.

I applied to one safety school that was 3rd tier, 4 "match" schools that were 2nd tier, and 7 schools in the top 30 and 2 schools in the 30-50 rank range.

My results: the 3rd tier waitlisted me, 2 of the match schools waitlisted me and the other two rejected me, 2 of the 7 top 30 schools waitlisted me with the rest rejected me, and both schools in the 30-50 range accepted me. If I listened to the calculators and the majority of folks on here I would have only applied to 2nd and 3rd tier schools w/o considering the others.

If I was in your shoes I would only apply to 1 or 2 lower tier schools and spend the bulk of my time and money on the higher ranking school. While you will not get as many acceptances as if you applied for more "safety" schools, remember that you can only go to ONE school in the end. After the first day of law school, no one gives a damn about how many or what law schools you got into.

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Law School Admissions / Re: LSAT retake as a WL strategy?
« on: December 15, 2006, 12:02:35 PM »
is it possible that a better lsat would be useful even for those schools you are already admitted to? for example, more money? lsat might be a major pain but if 50,000 dollars are on the line?


But there is a risk that your score wouldnt get higher and you might lose out on scholarships that might get awarded later in the admission cycle. Some schools don't finalize scholarships until April. If you are concerned about getting more scholarship $$$ call the schools you have already been accepted at and ask what you can do to qualify for more money. While most schools will probably not flat out and say that an increase in the LSAT score (since most schools claim that the LSAT is not the end all for all their decisions  ::)), some schools will divulge additional info about LSAT ranges for particular scholarships.


Regarding the waitlist situation, if you are waitlisted at a school you want to attend it is probably good that you retake the LSAT BUT you need to see how the school's waitlist works. Some schools, like Vandy, will rarely go to their waitlist and when they do it is at the very last minute. Other schools, like GULC, go through the list many times.

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