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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Anonymous posters on LSN
« on: March 22, 2006, 01:59:46 PM »
yup unregistered posters are sometimes annyoing, but I just let it ride since I'm not one to restrict people's thoughts.

Wow, you're right.  You get AA haters, I get, um, anything that's not t14 haters.  And Alabama haters.  Probably this guy just hates the South in general.  Notice he didn't even suggest Vandy...

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Anonymous posters on LSN
« on: March 22, 2006, 01:31:51 PM »
You may be getting some flack for turning down Vanderbilt for Alabama.

Actually, if you didn't read the posts the guy is suggesting that I should have applied to every t14 and should reapply next year instead of going to Alabama.  Apparently Vanderbilt isn't even good enough for this guy...

God, I kind of wish I hadn't made a 171.

Choosing the Right Law School / Anonymous posters on LSN
« on: March 22, 2006, 01:28:11 PM »
Anybody else having anonymous posters on LSN giving them problems?  Or is it just me?

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: How valuable is a full ride?
« on: March 22, 2006, 01:24:19 PM »
Ok, I've read all 8 pages of this thread and still need help answering this question:
Chapman w/ $$$ (not a full ride but full tuition 1st year and highly possible chance of renewing 70-100% of tuition for 2nd and 3rd years) or University of San Diego w/ no $$$?

Once again... ask yourself, which school do I want to go to?


"As we shall see, the law school an attorney attends may well be the most important factor in talent selection. For example, if a law school boasts of a student population with an average score on the LSAT in the top 2% of that yearís test-taking population, plus a cumulative college grade point average exceeding 3.60, then as a whole, this law schoolís students will arguably be more talented than students from a different law school where LSAT scores fall in the top 20-30% range and cumulative college grade point averages are in the area of 3.2. Using this logic, a graduate in the top half of the class at a highly competitive law school will, in the mind of a law firm recruiter, be considered more talented than a graduate in the top fifth of the class at a less competitive law school...Because the highest-paying and most prestigious law firms only interview at the relatively few law schools that contain students with both superior LSAT scores and GPAs. Thus, if a student has superior scores, but for one reason or another does not attend a top law school, he/she risks being overlooked. Given the fact that the average law firm
would love to hire almost any attorney with a Harvard or Yale law degree, the most prestigious law
firms can be even pickier. The rule of thumb used by such firms is that if you have your choice, you donít want any attorney who canít outperform at least 70% of his/her class. Some international New York law firms go further and routinely select only from the top 10% of graduating classes from at most eight or nine law schools. That way, these firms argue, they hire the best of the very best."

I'd like to know where this quote was taken from.

i agree...i was just joking...Good luck at Bama

Thanks... yeah, I can take a joke. :) "Doesn't care one bit" certainly doesn't describe me; "cares, but thinks $30k of debt at t50 is better than $120k of debt at t20" is more like it.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: How valuable is a full ride?
« on: March 22, 2006, 01:09:08 PM »
Even though I am totally supportive of those on this thread who are taking the full ride I am also totally supportive of those who don't.
Going to school does usually involve some debt. I doubt most people apply to law school expecting to come out loan free. I think the question then becomes how much debt is too much? Is 60k a reasonable investment? How about 150k? People are naturally going to have different, sometimes very different, comfort levels.
It comes down to this: a free ride is very very valuable. If taking the free ride is going to allow you to fulfill your dreams, take it.
If going to NYU is going to fulfill your dreams, go there. The name of the school on your diploma does make a difference, how big of one can be argued. Why does it make a difference? Because everyone thinks it does. If people stopped thinking it there's a possibility it would not matter anymore.
I think it's cool that lsd is a forum where people can compare info and ask advice, but it's just that. You don't have to believe everything you hear, you don't have to take all the advice you get.

Exactly.  No matter what anyone says on here, the decision is ultimately yours to make.  I took the full ride and I'm happy with it because $120k of debt scares me; others might take $120k of debt for the name on the degree.  That's your decision.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Not another one of these...
« on: March 22, 2006, 12:41:47 PM »
Ohhh Rocky Top, you'll always be Home Sweet Hooome to meeee... good ole rocky top! Rocky Top, Tennessee.

I'm slightly biased towards a certain geographic region of the country, though.

I'm biased toward that region, too, but hate the Vols so didn't want to suggest it.

Not really the only one, if you consider my decision.  I fall into the boat of "my parents make good money but aren't going to contribute anything to my legal education."  That means that I can't get need-based grants since my parents make too much money, so it's either going to be (a) merit-based scholarships or (b) loans.  Is it a bigger deal to me that Vandy is ranked 24 spots higher than Alabama, or that I'd graduate with virtually no debt from Alabama versus over $100k in debt from Vanderbilt?  At some point you just have to throw out the rankings and pick the school that's best for you.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: How valuable is a full ride?
« on: March 22, 2006, 12:33:07 PM »
This thread does illustrate one thing that's been said on (possibly even this thread) a few threads...lawyers tend to be risk averse.  I'm not sure where that notion comes from, but look at everyone sort of mulling this over in different ways.  Few of us have been willing to step up and say F-it, I'm going to this school and I'll deal with the outcome later.  :)  Just food for thought.

Sometimes not thinking everything through is a little liberating.  Of course, sometimes when that's the approach, one ends up looking back going "hm, should have thought that through a bit more."

I think some of us are overestimating how much the name on our degree will really mean.  Just go with the school that feels right to you and take whatever happens.  I happen to know one of the best lawyers in the town where I go to college.  He's been practicing for 25 years and at this point, nobody really cares whether his degree says Harvard or Ole Miss (it says Ole Miss.)  What matters down the road is how good you are at what you do.

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