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I'm just curious about this... my second semester grades aren't going to be great, though in the whole scheme my overall GPA probably won't go below a 3.4.  But, has anyone ever heard of a law school revoking an offer of admission based on senior year grades?  (Not "senior year grades so bad that the person doesn't even graduate," just somebody who had a 2.5 or so.)

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Rankings whores.
« on: April 02, 2006, 11:39:25 PM »
I'm a rankings whore on the inside, but I don't let it make my decisions for me.

I'll be at Wash U next year on a full scholarship (yay for the Olin Fellowship!) although I probably could have gone to a better ranked school with 3.65/169/very strong ECs.

(I planned to apply to Fordham, Duke, Penn, Harvard, Yale, NYU, Columbia, and BU as well, but after finding out about my $25/year SOL award in October I only ended up applying to Wash U, NYU and Columbia)

I honestly applied to NYU and Columbia because of their rank/prestige and location, not because I thought they were a good fit. I think deep down I was just hoping I'd be able to say I turned one of them down, because I figured I'd end up at Wash U either way. (At the moment I haven't heard from either, so probably bad news. However, doesn't really bug me)

Sometimes it bugs me when people trash Wash U because it really is a great school, but who cares what others think? ;)

Well, WashU is #19 in the new USNWR rankings, so why would anybody trash it?  It's top 20.

I got a $26,000/year scholarship from Wash U but turned it down for less money at Vandy, primarily because I wanted to stay in the South... I can't really deal with cold weather, LOL.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Is 20 too young for LSAT?
« on: April 02, 2006, 11:33:27 PM »
I'm 20...turning 21 the day after my college graduation (May 8).  I don't think it hurt me at all, but then again I can't even remember if any application even asked me for my DOB, so I think it's a fairly neutral factor.

I think it factors in more depending on the specific college you apply to.  LS do NOT want a class full of students right out of college.  I think the average age of students at Columbia is 25.

It varies from school to school.  Northwestern almost exclusively takes students with work experience; Vanderbilt, on the other hand, has an average starting age of 23, so there are plenty of younger students there.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Is 20 too young for LSAT?
« on: March 31, 2006, 08:16:35 PM »
Go for it.  Some law schools think you need "life experience," but if you know you want to be a lawyer I don't really see any point in putting it off.  I'll be 22 when I start law school.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: The Official I'm Going to X School Thread
« on: March 28, 2006, 08:29:05 AM »

Financial Aid / What's a realistic amount to expect to spend on food?
« on: March 27, 2006, 01:29:45 PM »
I got my financial aid award offer from Vandy today, and included in it are $46,000 in loans.  Only $26,000 is going toward tuition, so I'm trying to figure out how to save money and not have to take out as much in loans.  My question is, how much can I realistically expect to be spending on food each month?  I'll certainly be eating out sometimes but not all the time, but since my only experience living away from home has been four years of college (and eating on a meal plan all four years) I don't really know how much I should be budgeting for food.  Any thoughts?

Of course, the difference is that there's really no way you can (legally) increase your performance for the combine.

OF COURSE someone can increase their performance in the combine, it's the exact same scenerio as the LSAT.  It's an artificial, contrived set of exercises intended to test in a vacuum certain skills you will need to perform in the real situation... but which by no means captures everything or is a perfect indicator of future success.  If "Bob" is slightly more gifted than "Joe", but Joe spends months prepping with a trainer using a simulated combine format, while Bob barely does any familiarization or physical prep at all, it should be no surprise to anyone if Joe matches or surpasses Bob's performance on that day.

Look folks, if you want to make an argument that the LSAT is a poor predictor of 1L performance, you can build a good case.  However, I just don't get this attitude that it's "shameful" or "cheating the system" to prep for a standardized test, while "more honorable" to take standardized tests "natural" (i.e. too lazy or busy to read a book and take some practice tests).

There is no "honor" in taking a test without prep, outside the community of folks on the Internet who didn't prep either.  If an athlete doesn't perform at his best in the combine, he's not going to get a "handicap" in the eyes of any coach for proudly declaring that he hasn't been to gym in months.  Likewise, no admissions committee is going to look at you as an ethical hero for walking into one of the biggest test of your life unprepared.  Prentending that attitude to be unfair is simply sour grapes.

I think you missed the point.  If people are preparing to take the LSAT, then that sort of lessens the chance that the LSAT will predict their real ability to achieve in law school.  If everybody who took the LSAT took it cold, then the LSAT might be a better predictor of law school success, but that simply isn't the case.  Preparing for the LSAT isn't "cheating" the system; it just lessens the ability somewhat of the LSAT to predict success in law school.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Help!! UNC or Wake Forest
« on: March 24, 2006, 10:51:27 AM »
I'm just going to go ahead and throw out the advice I give everybody... Go wherever feels right for you.  The differences in rankings or cost aren't great enough that I can really recommend one over the other, and you need to just decide which one YOU want to go to.  Ultimately you're the one that has to live with your decision.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: How valuable is a full ride?
« on: March 23, 2006, 09:22:41 PM »
i think ill probably take a full ride if im offered one.  i figure that ill have an easier time justifying that next round of vodka and redbulls for a crew of hotties with my loan money and that makes the Stifman happy.

I thought you were the Stifmeister.

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