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General Off-Topic Board / How to gauge the economy/job market of a city..
« on: November 13, 2006, 08:04:28 AM »
Ok here is the goal.  We are all applying to law schools in different cities, and I think it would be helpful to know how the economy of these cities are and maybe their job markets.

Also, what type of economy does the city have?  What industry does most of the population work?

I know that you could just type in the cities name in google and try and find the info that way.

But I was wondering if someone had any good resources to find this information?

Or how do you tell if a city has a good economy/job market?

General Off-Topic Board / The latest..
« on: November 10, 2006, 01:07:34 PM »
I don't know what to say...

Purported al-Qaida Tape Praises U.S. Election Results
Terrorist Leader Claims Group Winning War in Iraq

BAGHDAD, Iraq (Nov. 10) - Al-Qaida in Iraq claimed in a new audio tape Friday to be winning the war faster than expected in Iraq and said it had mobilized 12,000 fighters who had "vowed to die for God's sake."




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The U.S. military, meanwhile, reported that three U.S. soldiers and a Marine were killed Thursday in Iraq, the U.S. military said, bringing the number of Americans who have died in the country so far this month to 25. At least 105 U.S. forces died in October, the fourth highest monthly toll of the war.

On the audio tape made available on militant Web sites, the al-Qaida in Iraq leader also welcomed the Republican electoral defeat that led to the departure of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. He added that the group's fighters would not rest until they had blown up the White House.

"The al-Qaida army has 12,000 fighters in Iraq, and they have vowed to die for God's sake," a man who identified himself as Abu Hamza al-Muhajir said.

Al-Muhajir, also known as Abu Ayyub al-Masri, also urged the U.S. to stay in Iraq so his group would have more opportunities to kill American troops. "We haven't had enough of your blood yet," he told the U.S.

"We will not rest from our Jihad until we are under the olive trees of Rumieh and we have blown up the filthiest house - which is called the White House," al-Muhajir said. It was not clear what Rumieh was referring to.

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Al-Muhajir became the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq after Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed in a U.S. airstrike in June. The tape could not be independently verified.

"The American people have put their feet on the right path by ... realizing their president's betrayal in supporting Israel," the terror leader said. "So they voted for something reasonable in the last elections."

Describing President Bush as "the most stupid president" in U.S. history, al-Masri reached out to the Muslim world and said his group was winning the war in Iraq faster than expected due to U.S. policies.

Since the war started in March 2003, 2,845 members of the U.S. military have died, according to an Associated Press count.

The Iraqi army also said it captured the Egyptian leader of an al-Qaida cell in restive Anbar province.

Acting on a tip, Iraqi soldiers descended on a building in the city of Rawah, 175 miles northwest of Baghdad, where they arrested local al-Qaida commander Abu Muhayyam al-Masri, whose name, like that of the group's overall leader, is a pseudonym meaning, "the Egyptian," a Defense Ministry official said.

Two aides, Abu Issam al-Libi, or "the Libyan," and Abu Zaid al-Suri, "the Syrian," also were arrested, along with nine other members of the cell, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.

The pseudonyms appeared to mark the men as foreign fighters, thousands of whom are said by Iraq's government to have crossed the porous border with Syria about 55 miles west of Rawah to join the insurgency. Their nationalities were not confirmed.

The official said al-Suri confessed to organizing at least one suicide bombing in Baghdad. He said the raid also netted a large quantity of weapons.

Rawah lies deep in Anbar province, where Sunni Arab insurgents routinely launch deadly attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces that show no sign of diminishing in numbers or intensity, more than three years after the U.S. invasion.

At least 11 of the American deaths in November have been in Anbar, including a Marine who died Thursday from wound suffered in fighting there.

A roadside bomb also killed two American soldiers and wounded another Thursday in western Baghdad, the U.S. command said. Another soldier was killed and one wounded by a roadside bomb that struck their truck Thursday during a combat logistics patrol west of Haditha, 140 miles northwest of the capital.

In other violence, six Iraqi soldiers were killed and 10 wounded when a suicide bomber drove his explosives-rigged car into an army checkpoint in the northern city of Tal Afar, the military said.

Army spokesman Brig. Najim Abdullah said the car stopped after soldiers opened fire as it sped toward the checkpoint. The unit's commander, who was among those killed, then led a group of soldiers toward it, when the driver, apparently faking death, detonated the explosives, Abdullah said.

Tal Afar has suffered frequent insurgent attacks, despite President Bush's declaration in March that the city was an example of progress made in bringing security to Iraq. Tal Afar lies 93 miles east of the Syrian border and 260 miles northwest of Baghdad.

Three members of a family were killed by gunmen who stormed their home near Baqouba, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad, police said.

At least 33 bodies also were found in Baghdad and several nearby cities, morgue officials said.

The new deaths came a day after Iraqi Health Minister Ali al-Shemari estimated 150,000 civilians have been killed in the war - about three times previously accepted estimates.

In comments to the AP during a visit to Austria, al-Shemari said he based his figure on an estimate of 100 bodies per day brought to morgues and hospitals - although such a calculation would come out closer to 130,000 in total.

"It is an estimate," al-Shemari said.

Hassan Salem, of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, or SCIRI, said the 150,000 figure included civilians and police, as well as those who were abducted, killed and whose bodies were brought to morgues run by the Health Ministry. SCIRI is Iraq's largest Shiite political organization and holds the largest number of seats in parliament.

No official account for Iraq deaths in the post-invasion conflict has ever been available. Accurate figures are difficult to establish because police and hospitals often give widely conflicting tolls of those killed in major bombings. Death figures also are reported through multiple channels by government agencies that function with varying efficiency.

A member of the movement of radical anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, al-Shemari also repeated the Shiite-dominated government's demands for a speedier U.S. transfer of authority to Iraqi forces and the withdrawal of U.S. troops to their bases, away from Iraq's cities and towns.

"The army of America didn't do its job. ... They tie the hands of my government," al-Shemari said. presence in Iraq.

11/10/06 12:32 EST

Law School Admissions / Post and answer your FEE WAIVER questions here..
« on: November 10, 2006, 08:04:35 AM »
First question... If a school sends you a fee waiver through email.. do you have to fill out the app on their website?  Or can you still do it on LSAC?

Second question... If a school sends you a fee waiver through snail mail.. do you have to fill out the app on their website?  Or can you still do it on LSAC?

And if you can still do the app through LSAC, how do they know that your fee has been waived?

Studying for the LSAT / LR question problem type 3
« on: November 08, 2006, 09:43:57 AM »
Haveing trouble here.. can someone explain why the right answer is the right answer...

since anyone who supports the new tax plan has no chance of being elected, and anyone who truly understands economics would not suppor the tax plan, only someone who truly supports the understands economics woudl have any chance of being elected.

The reasoning in the arg is flawed because the arg ignores the poss that some people who..

a) truly understand economics do not support the tax plan
b) truly understand economics have no chance of being elected
c) do not support the tax plan have no chance of being elected
d)do not support the tax plan do not truly understand economics
e) have no chance of being elected do not truly understand economics.

General Off-Topic Board / For those thinking of doing IP law...
« on: November 07, 2006, 02:14:34 PM »
I have been trolling around looking at the various attorney positions that are posted for various cities...

My Observation:

Almost all of the listings say they are looking for premier candidates that have an engineering degree, where a MS or Phd is highly preferred.  On top of this you must have 3-5 years of IP/firm experience.

So say you graduate college at 23
You then attend school for a MS and graduate at 25
You attend law school and graduate when you are 29
Then you get a firm job for 3 years then you are 32

This is assuming that you have taken no breaks in between degrees and assuming that you did not get a Phd.

If you were to get a Phd that would easily push your age to 36ish before you would even be elligible for this position. 

Shoot if I did the MS/Phd/JD route then I would only have about 16 more years left to live.  (3 of the men in my immediate family have died before they reached 56 years) >:(

Imagine the student loans that the engineering/Phd/JD would require.

I am just ranting really, I just hope that I will be employable in an IP firm with my little BS degree once I obtain my JD.

Any thoughts?  inspirational anecdotes?  inspirational anything?


Maybe this would help some people when deciding where to apply to law school...

What is your safe factor?

1. Brick, N.J.
2. Amherst, N.Y.
3. Mission Viejo, Calif.
4. Newton, Mass.
5. Troy, Mich.
6. Colonie, N.Y.
7. Irvine, Calif.
8. Cary, N.C.
9. Greece, N.Y.
10. Coral Springs, Fla.
11. Thousand Oaks, Calif.
12. Orem, Utah
13. Round Rock, Texas
14. Dover, N.J.
15. Lake Forest, Calif.
16. Sterling Heights, Mich.
17. Simi Valley, Calif.
18. Roswell, Ga.
19. Lee's Summit, Mo.
20. Broken Arrow, Okla.
21. Chino Hills, Calif.
22. Gilbert, Ariz.
23. Edison, N.J.
24. Cranston, R.I.
25. Port St. Lucie, Fla.
26. Sandy, Utah
27. Nashua, N.H.
28. Danbury, Conn.
29. Huntington Beach, Calif.
30. Orange, Calif.
31. Hamilton, N.J.
32. Parma, Ohio
33. Overland Park, Kan.
34. Santa Clarita, Calif.
35. Stamford, Conn.
36. Cheektowaga, N.Y.
37. Livonia, Mich.
38. Sunnyvale, Calif.
39. Murrieta, Calif.
40. Canton, Mich.
41. Plano, Texas
42. Warwick, R.I.
43. Torrance, Calif.
44. Clifton, N.J.
44. Newport Beach, Calif.
46. Woodbridge, N.J.
47. Fargo, N.D.
48. Norman, Okla.
49. Olathe, Kan.
50. Boca Raton, Fla.
51. Livermore, Calif.
52. Centennial, Colo.
53. Fremont, Calif.
54. Clinton, Mich.
55. Vacaville, Calif.
56. Tracy, Calif.
57. Bellevue, Wash.
58. Carlsbad, Calif.
59. Pembroke Pines, Fla.
60. Farmington Hills, Mich.
61. Richardson, Texas
62. Rancho Cucamon., Calif.
63. Boulder, Colo.
64. McKinney, Texas
65. Rochester, Minn.
66. Beaverton, Ore.
67. Santa Clara, Calif.
68. Daly City, Calif.
69. Lewisville, Texas
70. Napa, Calif.
71. Burbank, Calif.
72. Arvada, Colo.
73. Alexandria, Va.
74. Virginia Beach, Va.
75. Ann Arbor, Mich.
76. Quincy, Mass.
77. Glendale, Calif.
78. Ventura, Calif.
79. Provo, Utah
80. Fullerton, Calif.
81. Lawrence, Kan.
82. Scottsdale, Ariz.
83. Carrollton, Texas
84. Hillsboro, Ore.
85. Somerville, Mass.
86. Kenosha, Wis.
87. Davie, Fla.
88. Chino, Calif.
89. Sunrise, Fla.
90. Cape Coral, Fla.
91. Henderson, Nev.
92. Billings, Mont.
93. Cedar Rapids, Iowa
94. Plantation, Fla.
95. Costa Mesa, Calif.
96. San Mateo, Calif.
97. Garland, Texas
98. Madison, Wis.
99. Corona, Calif.
100. Clovis, Calif.
101. Yonkers, N.Y.
102. Alhambra, Calif.
103. Buena Park, Calif.
104. Odessa, Texas
105. Chandler, Ariz.
106. Norwalk, Conn.
107. Upper Darby, Pa.
108. Peoria, Ariz.
109. Westminster, Calif.
110. Roseville, Calif.
111. Lakewood, Calif.
112. San Jose, Calif.
113. Honolulu, Hawaii
114. El Paso, Texas
115. Santa Barbara, Calif.
116. Temecula, Calif.
117. Cambridge, Mass.
118. Pasadena, Texas
119. Brownsville, Texas
120. Boise, Idaho
121. Garden Grove, Calif.
122. Mesquite, Texas
123. Westminster, Colo.
124. Manchester, N.H.
125. Whittier, Calif.
126. Westland, Mich.
127. McAllen, Texas
128. Lincoln, Neb.
129. Pasadena, Calif.
130. Columbia, Mo.
131. Midland, Texas
132. Chesapeake, Va.
133. Santa Rosa, Calif.
134. Spokane Valley, Wash.
135. Anaheim, Calif.
136. Athens-Clarke, Ga.
137. Green Bay, Wis.
138. Irving, Texas
139. Fort Collins, Colo.
140. Escondido, Calif.
141. Miramar, Fla.
142. Concord, Calif.
143. West Covina, Calif.
144. Hampton, Va.
145. New York City
146. Denton, Texas
147. Palm Bay, Fla.
148. Sioux City, Iowa
149. Sioux Falls, S.D.
150. Thornton, Colo.
151. Salem, Ore.
152. Hialeah, Fla.
153. Baldwin Park, Calif.
154. Erie, Pa.
155. San Angelo, Texas
156. Oxnard, Calif.
157. Oceanside, Calif.
158. Austin, Texas
159. Evansville, Ind.
160. Lakeland, Fla.
161. Laredo, Texas
162. Raleigh, N.C.
163. El Monte, Calif.
164. Waterbury, Conn.
165. Vista, Calif.
166. Murfreesboro, Tenn.
167. Fontana, Calif.
168. Grand Prairie, Texas
169. Fort Wayne, Ind.
170. Santa Ana, Calif.
171. Santa Monica, Calif.
172. Lexington, Ky.
173. Colorado Springs, Colo.
174. Suffolk, Va.
175. Hollywood, Fla.
176. Eugene, Ore.
177. Norwalk, Calif.
178. Santa Maria, Calif.
179. Downey, Calif.
180. Abilene, Texas
181. Chula Vista, Calif.
182. Ogden, Utah
183. Melbourne, Fla.
184. Clarksville, Tenn.
185. Sparks, Nev.
186. San Diego, Calif.
187. Carson, Calif.
188. Vancouver, Wash.
189. Greeley, Colo.
190. Springfield, Mo.
191. Mesa, Ariz.
192. Moreno Valley, Calif.
193. Tyler, Texas
194. Dearborn, Mich.
195. Des Moines, Iowa
196. Lowell, Mass.
197. San Antonio
198. Corpus Christi, Texas
199. El Cajon, Calif.
200. Salinas, Calif.
201. Fairfield, Calif.
202. Lakewood, Colo.
203. Redding, Calif.
204. Ontario, Calif.
205. South Gate, Calif.
206. Topeka, Kan.
207. Arlington, Texas
208. Lawton, Okla.
209. Riverside, Calif.
210. Antioch, Calif.
211. Long Beach, Calif.
212. Anchorage, Alaska
213. West Valley, Utah
214. Hawthorne, Calif.
215. Yuma, Ariz.
216. Louisville, Ky.
217. Omaha, Neb.
218. Clearwater, Fla.
219. Independence, Mo.
220. Spokane, Wash.
221. Reno, Nev.
222. Grand Rapids, Mich.
223. Pueblo, Colo.
224. Hayward, Calif.
225. Tuscaloosa, Ala.
226. Berkeley, Calif.
227. Las Cruces, N.M.
228. Mobile, Ala.
229. Worcester, Mass.
230. Palmdale, Calif.
231. Modesto, Calif.
232. Wichita Falls, Texas
233. Lubbock, Texas
234. San Leandro, Calif.
235. Amarillo, Texas
236. Bakersfield, Calif.
237. Columbus, Ga.
238. Gainesville, Fla.
239. Gresham, Ore.
240. Charleston, S.C.
241. Tempe, Ariz.
242. Lynn, Mass.
243. Lafayette, La.
244. Newport News, Va.
245. High Point, N.C.
246. Fort Worth, Texas
247. Salt Lake City, Utah
248. Jacksonville, Fla.
249. Portland, Ore.
250. Los Angeles
251. Victorville, Calif.
252. Bellflower, Calif.
253. Glendale, Ariz.
254. New Bedford, Mass.
255. Pomona, Calif.
256. Racine, Wis.
257. Aurora, Colo.
258. Elizabeth, N.J.
259. Rialto, Calif.
260. Savannah, Ga.
261. Paterson, N.J.
262. Seattle
263. Albany, Ga.
264. Southfield, Mich.
265. Lancaster, Calif.
266. Waco, Texas
267. Fresno, Calif.
268. Killeen, Texas
269. Greensboro, N.C.
270. San Francisco
271. Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
272. Durham, N.C.
273. Fort Smith, Ark.
274. Tallahassee, Fla.
275. South Bend, Ind.
276. Lansing, Mich.
277. Federal Way, Wash.
278. Huntsville, Ala.
279. Albuquerque, N.M.
280. Visalia, Calif.
281. Winston-Salem, N.C.
282. Providence, R.I.
283. Everett, Wash.
284. Davenport, Iowa
285. Hammond, Ind.
286. Roanoke, Va.
287. Norfolk, Va.
288. Fayetteville, N.C.
289. Kent, Wash.
290. Akron, Ohio
291. St. Paul, Minn.
292. Wilmington, N.C.
293. Portsmouth, Va.
294. Oklahoma City
295. Columbia, S.C.
296. Canton, Ohio
297. Knoxville, Tenn.
298. Montgomery, Ala.
299. Allentown, Pa.
300. North Las Vegas, Nev.
301. Beaumont, Texas
302. Las Vegas, Nev.
303. Denver
304. Yakima, Wash.
305. Syracuse, N.Y.
306. Longview, Texas
307. Pittsburgh
308. Tucson, Ariz.
309. Bridgeport, Conn.
310. Inglewood, Calif.
311. Pompano Beach, Fla.
312. Albany, N.Y.
313. Phoenix
314. Boston
315. Chattanooga, Tenn.
316. Tampa, Fla.
317. Jersey City, N.J.
318. Milwaukee
319. Miami Beach, Fla.
320. Indianapolis, Ind.
321. Shreveport, La.
322. Sacramento, Calif.
323. St. Petersburg, Fla.
324. Tacoma, Wash.
325. Houston
326. Columbus, Ohio
327. Miami
328. Baton Rouge, La.
329. Charlotte, N.C.
330. Jackson, Miss.
331. Toledo, Ohio
332. Macon, Ga.
333. Nashville, Tenn.
334. Rochester, N.Y.
335. Tulsa, Okla.
336. Stockton, Calif.
337. Hartford, Conn.
338. Dallas
339. Miami Gardens, Fla.
340. Buffalo, N.Y.
341. Springfield, Mass.
342. Kansas City, Kan.
343. Philadelphia
344. West Palm Beach, Fla.
345. Minneapolis
346. Dayton, Ohio
347. Orlando, Fla.
348. San Bernardino, Calif.
349. Little Rock, Ark.
350. Newark, N.J.
351. Reading, Pa.
352. North Charleston, S.C.
353. Washington
354. Cincinnati
355. Atlanta
356. Kansas City, Mo.
357. Richmond, Va.
358. Trenton, N.J.
359. Memphis, Tenn.
360. Baltimore
361. Richmond, Calif.
362. Gary, Ind.
363. Youngstown, Ohio
364. Oakland, Calif.
365. Cleveland
366. Birmingham, Ala.
367. Camden, N.J.
368. Compton, Calif.
369. Flint, Mich.
370. Detroit
371. St. Louis

General Off-Topic Board / For the computer whiz kids...
« on: November 05, 2006, 11:47:08 AM »
Ok, so I delete all of my cookies and temp internet files in the temp internet folder, I delete the history, yet still when I type in "www.f"  my internet explorer browser still comes up with "" as a suggested website.

How do I get rid of this? 

This isn't the only website that it does it for. 

When I have been on the internet for a while, I delete the cookies and the temp internet files, and it gets rid of some of these sites that are suggested.  But that facebook one will never go away.  Neither will some others that are pretty persistant...

Anyone?  :(

General Off-Topic Board / How to pay for surgery?
« on: October 31, 2006, 02:31:12 PM »
Suppose someone is in a grad (professional) school full time... and working part time.. but the company that you work for does not offer you health insurance.  And suppose that you come down with a problem that is pre cancerous and the doctor recommends a costly $4000-$5000 surgery.

How do you pay for this??

Or do you just wait to die of cancer?

General Off-Topic Board / Part time Transfer
« on: October 24, 2006, 01:24:38 PM »
So if you are attending a part time program at a law school, and decide that you want to transfer to another part time program..

How long do you have to wait for the new school to consider you as a transfer?

And will they even accept you as a transfer if you have been part time at your school?  Will they accept you into their PT program?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated  :)

General Off-Topic Board / USNEWS law rank first year?
« on: October 23, 2006, 11:01:09 AM »
What was the first year that the USNEWSWEEK people ranked law schools?

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