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General Board / Re: Time for Football?
« on: February 12, 2008, 12:13:38 PM »
My 2 cents:

It's really up to you and how quickly you come to understand the fundamental study techniques of law school.  It took me a good amount of time to adjust to law school so I wasn't able to watch football for my 1L.  I know plenty of other students who were able to take sunday off to watch 2-3 games. 

(This year my schedule has mondays off... ;D)

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You don't lose anything by trying.

That being said, this is your situation: You have a conflicting story as to whether you cheated or not with both proctors. So it's your word against theirs.   soo... yeah...  You can always hope that the one proctor has a moment of clairty and decides to fess up.  It's the same theory that impeachment for prior inconsistent statement is based on.  Maybe when faced with authority in a situation where the truth needs to come out, someone will tell the truth, even if you know they plan on lying.   

(sorry about the grammar, class is starting and don't have time to clean up)

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I wouldn't expect to much.  The best you would get would be to retake the exam (different questions, obviously). Although they made an error, they will probably claim it is a harmless one as I'm sure you have people in your school who CHOOSE to hand write.  Don't get me wrong, I'd do terrible if I had to hand write my exam. 

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General Board / Re: Should I drop out?
« on: January 30, 2008, 11:09:24 PM »
Hey guys, just wanted to add my 2 cents.  After my first semester at Law school I had the exact same GPA (thanks to a D in Civ Pro).  I worked hard, took summer classes and stuck it out.  I'm looking to graduate in the fall session (1 semester early) and my GPA (as long as I keep up my efforts) should see me in the top 50%, but not quite top 30% of my class. 

My first semester taught me a lot about what not to do, and if you can take those lessons with you, you should be ok. my School has a 2.5 Curve for first year students and teachers are required to hand out at least 10% D's and 50% C's. If your school has a curve like this as well, take your grades with a grain of salt.  If your school has a 3.0 or above curve.... Well, then you have a tougher decision to make.


You didn't mention where you are going after graduation.  Might be useful for the OP to know job prospects.  Also, what school you are in.  These are all relative, otherwise its like comparing apples to oranges for the OP.


>I go to Widener
>>I got a job working part time as a paralegal summer of 1L and I continue to do part time work now.  If I pass the bar  on my first shot I have an associates position waiting. 

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General Board / Re: Character and Fitness Concern - Petit Larceny
« on: January 29, 2008, 12:51:02 AM »
If you are really serious about law school, you should talk to some attorneys who practice in your local bar and find out what they think.  Answers that we give won't be accurate as each bar is different.  That being said, There are issues which you need to take into account: The older crime probably won't matter as much as Bars will often forgive actions over 10 years old, especially since you were so young at the time.  When you graduate from law school it will be 6-7 years since you committed your other crime.  This isn't really long enough for the crime to become stale for their purposes and the will probably seriously pursue it as a manner of interrogation.  Often enough, if you can show that you have changed, made a good impression on your professors in law school and are a generally reformed and good citizen they will allow you to join the bar.  Things they hate most include: Lying, half truths, and drawing out unpleasant facts.

1) I would, but I love learning about the law.
2) Already answered that above

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General Board / Re: Should I drop out?
« on: January 29, 2008, 12:43:42 AM »
Hey guys, just wanted to add my 2 cents.  After my first semester at Law school I had the exact same GPA (thanks to a D in Civ Pro).  I worked hard, took summer classes and stuck it out.  I'm looking to graduate in the fall session (1 semester early) and my GPA (as long as I keep up my efforts) should see me in the top 50%, but not quite top 30% of my class. 

My first semester taught me a lot about what not to do, and if you can take those lessons with you, you should be ok. my School has a 2.5 Curve for first year students and teachers are required to hand out at least 10% D's and 50% C's. If your school has a curve like this as well, take your grades with a grain of salt.  If your school has a 3.0 or above curve.... Well, then you have a tougher decision to make.

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General Board / Re: Medium Sized Firms
« on: January 18, 2008, 03:04:03 AM »
as with anything else in life, you'll get out what you put in.  Once you approach your third year you begin to see that a lot of what people say here about tiers has a very brightline application.  There are places that will look at your resume if you come from a T1-T2 (biglaw) and there are places that will give weight to those Tiers (mid size) but still look at T3's and T4's. A lot of mid size firms hire middle rank students from T3's and T4's.  It's about attitude, interviewing well, and knowing the niche market that you are going into. 

Will a mid size firm specializing in IP in PA take a 50% student from American who has no practical life experience over a 50% student from Widener who has a science background and is rearing and ready to take the IP bar? Chances are they'll go with the guy from the T4 in that situation. 

This situation is even more complicated in a small firm environment where the idea is to keep costs down.  Many firms want the best young attorney they can get for as little money as they can pay them.  Most T4 students are willing to take a lower income because their education has less intrinsic marketability. Thus it is more likely that a T4 or T3 student will get a job at a small firm. (which, in my opinion, has a much better quality of life than mid size and large firms (50 hour weeks on average as compared to 60-70))

Remember Grades only matter for your first job.  If you go to findlaw or some other recruiting resource, you can see plenty of jobs available for those with those magical 2-3 years of experience.  If you can't go mid size now, you can always go later!

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General Board / Re: puppy in LS/summer
« on: January 17, 2008, 09:36:34 AM »
Just wanted to Chime in, since I was in this position about 6 months ago.

I wanted a puppy too, because I'd always grown up with a dog and it's something I want in my life and I knew I wouldn't have time after I get a job to train a puppy appropriately.  So I did. I love her and she's great, but she does add a lot of complexity to my life and there are certain things you should consider.

No More:
Vacations without finding a dog sitter
Clean/undamaged furniture (my couch still smells like Pee...)
Personal Schedule. (you have a family schedule now, be home by certain hours to take care of the dog or else)
Loose money (vet bills add up in the first year.  Fixing a dog can cost up to 400 dollars)
Sleep (Dogs like to go out when they get up.  Either take them out, or find Pee in your residence or their crate.)
Absolute Concentration (Dogs like to Play. Puppys NEED to play.)
And many more...

Just some things to think about.  I wouldn't trade my pup for the world, but I have a SO and we talked this all out before getting her.  Best of luck!

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General Board / Re: How much do you HATE law school and the people in it?
« on: December 08, 2007, 03:51:05 AM »
I'm completely apathetic about the people, and I kind of like the classes. so... I guess I disagree.

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General Board / Re: Any Hope for Hopeless Situation?
« on: December 08, 2007, 03:48:15 AM »
I say this with all possible respect

Law exams are difficult, intensive and stressful. It's understandable to get worked up over exams, but you need to learn how to rise above that kind of pressure.  Especially if you're considering litigation.  Since the purpose of law school is to prepare you for those stressful times, I don't think the Dean will be very sympathetic.  Understanding, maybe. but I'm almost certain you won't get your grade changed.  If you think Therapy will help, take it.  As for me, I LIKE getting worked up before an exam. I feel like the adrenaline and the pressure make me do my best. but to each their own.  I wish you the best of luck in whatever solution you seek.

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