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I had Haugen last year for Contracts and she is good - but quite "old school". She has a reputation for being a tough grader, and I was devastated when I got my fall exam grade. However, I really took notice of what she wrote in her "post-mortem" and I turned things around. Not to blow my own trumpet, but I got an A in the end and actually came top of the class. (OK, that was trumpet-blowing...)

Her big thing is this: define every concept before you start to use it. And define it comprehensively and correctly. Literally, "it depends upon whether or not A made an offer to be B. An offer is......" and so on. I actually found of all my professors that she is the most "learn and churn" of them all, which surprised me.

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I second everything beachbum said. I have also just finished my 1L while working 32 hours a week.

It's been the hardest year of my life. My job (I am a corporate paralegal) is very demanding, and combine that with the work at school and I have been exhausted since August. I have been putting in approx 75 hours a week since day one. Thankfully, my grades reflect the work I've done, but honestly, unless you are willing to put EVERYTHING except work and school on hold, I wouldn't recommend trying to combine Law School and work. It's a killer.

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I am a 1L at Mitchell and would strongly encourage you to accept Mitchell's offer. I am a part-time student, which put the U off my list from the off, but in my experience Mitchell is as highly regarded as the U. Particularly because of the emphasis that Mitchell places on the practical skills which will be so marketable when we leave. My WRAP professor, a public defender, often says how he can distinguish the law clerks in his office between U of M and Mitchell, just by looking at a sample of writing (clue: Mitchell's tend to be better!)

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General Board / Re: Thinking about leaving Law School.
« on: January 17, 2007, 01:27:48 PM »
Because I have a mortgage to pay. And because my job (and the company I work for) is too good to give up. I am also 30, and married, and giving up work to study seems almost indulgent to me. But of course I am left with being pulled in 10 different directions.

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General Board / Thinking about leaving Law School.
« on: January 17, 2007, 12:58:12 PM »
Is anyone else seriously thinking about leaving Law School? I have just completed my first semester and I am really unsure if I want to continue. The problem isn’t my grades – I’ve received two out of four, and they are really quite good – but I just don’t know if I want this enough. I work FT and study PT (what a misnomer – 4 classes is hardly PT) and the rest of my life just falls to the wayside. I just keep thinking “This isn’t what life is about.” Where is the time to eat dinner with my husband, walk the dog, catch a film with friends? There just isn’t any.

If I thought that the hard work ended after 4 years, I think I’d feel better. But I imagine there are few first-year associates working a 40 hour week. I have a full scholarship, which is one of the reasons there’s a voice telling me to stick it out, but another voice says “Why bother if you’re not totally committed.” I go round in circles every day with this. If I don’t maintain a B average I will lose the scholarship; in which case, I am done. I know I am not willing to incur $60K of debt (for this or anything else). A friend told me that if I wasn’t committed enough to pay for Law School, that answers my question. 

Does anyone else feel the same way – or does anyone have any words of wisdom?

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Non-Traditional Students / Re: Anyone planning on kids during law school?
« on: February 18, 2006, 01:58:27 PM »
Thanks for posting this - I am about to start a part-time JD at William Mitchell and my husband and I have been talking about everything that has come up in this post. At this point I am thinking that after 1L, we are going to let Mother Nature decide...

jvan2619 - so which school have you decided upon?

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Non-Traditional Students / Re: converting grades
« on: February 18, 2006, 10:32:18 AM »
Paddy,

You will need to have your undergraduate institution (in my case Newcastle University) send a copy of your transcript to a place such as World Education Services, who will "translate" it into the 4.0 scale.

I did very well on the LSAT but I was unpleasantly surprised by my GPA conversion. I got a very solid 2.1 (and Newcastle is a good university) but it was converted to a 3.3 GPA, which is really very average. I know that at Newcastle they wouldn't allow US students to start a degree without first doing a "foundation year" so my understanding has always been that a UK degree is considered to be harder than its American equivalent. I got it to my law school of choice, anyway.

May I ask why you are going to law school out here? I am married to an American, which is why I am here.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Any future part timers here?
« on: February 18, 2006, 10:20:10 AM »
I am starting a part-time program in the autumn. I currently work as a Corporate Paralegal and I do around 35-40 hours a week. I have to be honest - although my job is occasionally very busy, it is not stressful, so I think combining the two will be OK. And as unlikely as I know it is, I am hoping that when I graduate I can skip Biglaw and be hired by the company I am currently with. I am much more interested in having a life - and lower salary - than selling my soul for $100+k.

And you?

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: UK Bachelors and American law school
« on: February 18, 2006, 10:05:43 AM »
I got my undergrad from Newcastle University, which of course is not registered with LSDAS. So when it came to law school applications I had to get an official transcript from Newcastle and have it sent to World Education Services to be "translated" into the 4.0 scale.

One word of warning - the first year of my degree didn't count towards my final grade, and let's just say I "took advantage" of that. But when it came to computing my US GPA, it counted. I got a solid 2:1 (and not far off a First) but because they used my first year grades my GPA was an unsatisfactoty 3.2. Thank goodness I got a 168 on the LSAT, so who gives....

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Yes, I have had a six year break since my undergrad and will be starting at William Mitchell (St. Paul) in the autumn. I am going to be studying part-time – I have a legal job at present and hope that will help the post-JD job search (as well as the mortgage payments!) I have been to the campus a couple of times during the day and I feel like I’m 50…..friends tell me the part-time program is much better, fewer “kids” than in the full-time program.

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