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  I won't rank an entire 14, but

   South....
   1. Virginia
   2. Duke
   3. Vanderbilt
   4. Texas
   5. Washington and Lee
   6. Emory
   7. Tulane


fixt.

   1. Virginia
   2. Duke
   3. Texas
   4. Vanderbilt
   5. Washington and Lee
   6. Emory/Tulane
 

you are all insane. Enough with the Emory hating.

1. Virginia
2. Duke
3. Texas
4. Vanderbilt/Emory
5. W&L
6. Tulane


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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Georgia State vs. Emory
« on: October 25, 2007, 11:43:55 PM »
1.  You have absolutely no way of knowing if you will graduate at the high end of GSU's class.  And if you go in assuming that you will, I can guarantee you that you will not.

2.  I really dislike Emory and think it is overrated.  If you want to live in ATL forever, and you have strong ties to the city, GSU is a fine school.  If you are aiming for Biglaw though, you should think about Emory.  Regardless of whether it deserves its ranking, the ranking is where it is, and firms pay attention to that.

I love law students [or even worse 0Ls] deciding that a school is "overrated." lets ask legal recruiting professionals (including law firm recruiting managers, law firm hiring partners and corporate counsel [you know, the people who are responsible for giving attorneys jobs]) throughout the United States which law schools are the most underrated [i.e. the complete opposite of overrated]: http://www.vault.com/lawschool/underrated/ . What?!? is that Emory rated the #1 UNDERRATED law school. So you clearly have a basis for your opinion that Emory is overrated, what do those legal recruiters, law firm hiring partners, and corporate counsel know, you obviously know better, you should forward your e mail address to vault so they can add your opinion in. Qualify your opinion next time. Thanks.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Emory Class of 2010
« on: June 21, 2007, 06:24:47 PM »
hey everyone. Congrats on your acceptance and your decision, you've made a good one. I am a rising 2L and an orientation leader. I know you guys have a ton of questions and ill try to answer them the best that i can. I probably wont get a chance to get on the board till late evening each day, but i'll do my best.

Is there any advice you can give specific to Emory?

Well, the first thing i would say is that it is not as competitive as everyone seems to think it is. I think Emory gets that reputation because the majority of the students here are from up north or texas and they want to go to markets such as DC/NYC/Chicago/Dallas/Houston and they want to get into the big firms in those cities. Well to get there, especially DC and NYC, you should be in the top 1/3 of the class at Emory, which isnt that bad of a deal. So you have probably 60% of the class trying to be top 1/3. But that does NOT mean that people are not friendly and people rip pages out of books. Actually it is the complete opposite. I have had nothing but positive experiences with my classmates and have not heard anything otherwise. So dont worry, everyone at Emory is friendly and it is not as competitive as people make it out to be.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Emory Class of 2010
« on: June 20, 2007, 08:26:54 PM »
hey everyone. Congrats on your acceptance and your decision, you've made a good one. I am a rising 2L and an orientation leader. I know you guys have a ton of questions and ill try to answer them the best that i can. I probably wont get a chance to get on the board till late evening each day, but i'll do my best.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Emory Class of 2010
« on: April 27, 2007, 10:14:38 AM »

Anyone going to the lawpreview.com course held at Emory in June?

Personally I don't think I'm going to attend any law school prep class.  I keep hearing that it is a huge waste of time.  I went to the website, they boast stats about the median students that took their class are top 20% of their class.  I don't think this really means anything though, because the same students that would be willing to attend a class like that are the same students that will likely study more, and become gunners and end up at the top of their class.

Anyone that has done one of those think differently?  Almost everyone I've talked to said they are useless...

SO not true, just because you study more and are a "gunnner" does not mean you'll be in the top. Most of the people who I know that did quite well did study a lot [but so does everyone else], but were not gunners.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: U of Miami ($$$) or Emory ($$)
« on: April 22, 2007, 12:14:51 AM »
California is where I will end up because of current connections and such...if i have to ill get stellar grades and apply to EVERY firm in the bay area...but my I am moving to get away from California for a few years...I got into USC and Hastings but chose not to go to either for many reasons (also neither gave me significant scholarships).

My main concerns center around a fear of having a J.D. but struggling to get a job. I want to make the right choice for career advancment. Im hoping to place in the top 1/4 at both schools but I do want some cushion if i decide to relax slightly.

How is the social setting at Emory ( the whole campus as well as the law school)? Diverse,relaxed, conservative...?
Thanks


If that is your fear, and you want the cushion, take the extra debt and go to USC. It gives you that cushion that UM certainly does not, and Emory does not give you to as great an extent.

what do you base this assumption on? How does usc give someone more of a cushion? more than emory? or are you talking about just in CA?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Which law school is best?
« on: April 21, 2007, 11:11:08 PM »
Emory ;) but if you are about IP, GW.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: U of Miami ($$$) or Emory ($$)
« on: April 19, 2007, 05:24:34 PM »
California is where I will end up because of current connections and such...if i have to ill get stellar grades and apply to EVERY firm in the bay area...but my I am moving to get away from California for a few years...I got into USC and Hastings but chose not to go to either for many reasons (also neither gave me significant scholarships).

My main concerns center around a fear of having a J.D. but struggling to get a job. I want to make the right choice for career advancment. Im hoping to place in the top 1/4 at both schools but I do want some cushion if i decide to relax slightly.

How is the social setting at Emory ( the whole campus as well as the law school)? Diverse,relaxed, conservative...?
Thanks

 

Remember this: 90% of the class wants to be in the top 10% of the class. I am not where I wanted to be in the class, I am working to change that, but there are NO guarantees that you will get good grades. You have to remember at most law schools you are competing against others for grades. The forced curve forces a professor to limit the amount of good grades they can give out. You are competing against people who have never got a bad grade in their life, who were valedictorians, who scored approx the same as you did on the lsat, who are extremely intelligent, this is what makes law school hard, your work product, no matter how good it is in the grand scheme of things, if it is not better than your classmates, then you are not going to get that A, A-, etc. Out of Emory you will not "struggle" to find a job. Like I mentioned, you will get a job, it might not be the big firm job that everyone on this board seems to think is the only thing worth living for, but you will get a job. Also, on a side note, I had a long discussion with my property professor today and after she graduated law school she went and worked for Sullivan & Cromwell in NY, a mega firm that is the quintessential "Big Law" that most of the posters speak about so lovingly on this board. She said it was miserable. She said that when her and the other associates would go out to lunch, they would look at the city workers who were paving the sidewalk in front of their building and be jealous of them. Be jealous that they didnít work till 1am every night 6.5 days/week and were able to be outside for more than an hour a day. Granted, some people love that kind of lifestyle and want to make the $160k/year that these firms pay to do that. But that is not for me, I could never imagine working till 1am 6 nights a week, no thanks, I want a family and enjoy life. Others will scoff and look down at others who are not practicing "Big  Law" and that's all right, b/c I could care less. I want weekend trips, I want to see my kids at night when I get home. Now I know it is not like this everywhere, but at these big firms in these big cities, that is how it is -- donít let them fool you, they get their moneys worth. Now I will step down from my soap box.

Social Scene at Emory - Emory does a great job of putting together a diverse class. About 2/3 have work experience, but most are in their mid to late 20's. I would say the student body leans a little to the left, but that doesnít mean there are not conservative students here. There are a ton of students groups from ones based on race to one that is just about eating. The city of Atlanta is generally liberal -- inside the perimeter. However, outside the perimeter it is conservative. The law school sticks to itself basically, it is not far from central campus and students often go there for lunch and such, but there is not much intermingling of the law school and the rest of the Emory school's. However they did have a law school/med school mixer last semester, but I wasnít able to go. The students work hard, but donít take themselves too seriously.
 

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: U of Miami ($$$) or Emory ($$)
« on: April 19, 2007, 10:01:15 AM »
As a 1L paid summer employment is hard to come by. However, I know some people here that did get firm jobs this summer at some of the atlanta big firms. Emory has a spring OCI for 1Ls where about 20 firms come on campus. I know others who got paid jobs in their home towns (detroit, austin, etc.). As for me I will be clerking for a federal judge this summer, this is unpaid, but great on the resume, good experience, and could lead to an invaluable recommendation. As for the 2L summer, I have heard that if you are in the top half firm employment is not hard to come by, if you are not in the top half, you are going to have to work at it. Everyone from Emory gets a job, that is not an issue, but not everyone gets a big firm job that pays gobs of money. Now if you are looking to go work in CA and cant get into the premiere schools [i.e. HYS, chicago, columbia, etc.] or any other schools that are top for international [georgetown] or strong in the CA market [berkely, ucla, usc], there is no point to go to any other school in the country besides one in CA. If CA is where you want to be then go to school there. Why go somewhere that is 3000 miles away? Think about it, if you are going to school in CA youll have a ton more opportunities to network w/ CA firms/businesses, opportunities to participate in field placements, summer jobs, etc. Yes Emory has a high ranking and is really good for the southeast, good for the northeast, decent for the midwest and as for the west coast, you probably need to be in the top 20% or have a connection to get employment out there. However, a friend of mine here worked out in San Fran. last summer and she did not have stellar grades. How did she do this? She applied to EVERY firm in the bay area, literally, she sent out over 100 resumes and cover letters. Also, she is a Stanford grad, so she had a connection to the area. I think it would be silly to go to Emory or UM if CA is where you know where you want to be  for sure. Think about working in Miami. A lot of Central American Businesses/corporations have major operations out of Miami and they all need legal counsel. If you do decide that Miami is where you want to be, then go to UM, but if you are unsure, go to Emory.       

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: U of Miami ($$$) or Emory ($$)
« on: April 18, 2007, 04:04:35 PM »
I am not worried about fitting in, just a LITTLE concerned about  limiting my networking ability because of other people's pre-judgments...its happened before, and I can't afford it now...

But can you tell me more about your experiences at Emory?

That's a bit broad, I am more than happy to let you know about specific expierences, i.e. classmates, workload, etc. Just let me know what you want to know about specifically. 

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