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I haven't read this thread, but I can fairly safely say that if I am not the biggest computer nerd on these forums, I am probably somewhere in the top 10. I just wanted to throw out that for doing actual work, you can never go wrong with a Thinkpad (Lenovo bought IBM's PC division a couple of years ago, so T or X series. For gaming, yes there are some better computers out there, but for working nothing beats the Thinkpad T and X series laptops (and for photo editing nothing beats a Thinkpad T series with the flexview screen, and for a Tablet PC nothing beats the X series, and even for gaming a T60 with the x1400 or better video card is pretty darn good). I convinced one friend to buy an X series, his boss saw it, now they might be getting them for the entire firm, that's how good they are.

Thinkpads do cost a little more than many other brands, but that is because they are built on the philosophy that people are smart enough to pay more money to get higher quality (i.e. they are the anti-Walmart and anti-Dell). Lenovo often runs some very good hard to find sales (and sometimes very good easy to find sales), so my recommendation is to call in your order via phone rather than configure online (though first configure online to know what you want and what the normal price is). Their phone reps are on a commission (though they aren't pushy like on-commission Best Buy salespeople), so if you tell them you need a better price, they do what they can to find you one.

Yes, but as an X41 Tablet owner I can tell you that Lenovo's customer service people stink. Meh, but then again, who actually has good customer service anyway?


A friend of mine dropped his 17 inch HP about a foot and a half onto the desk (accidently of course). It broke his DVD drive door - it will not shut anymore. It's funny now to watch it swing open everytime he moves it around his desk :)


If people need to go on the cheap I'd recommend the Dell Latitude series. The biggest comment that I hear is "You can really tell the different between it and the Inspiron. It doesn't feel like it's going to fall apart when I pick it up!" And so on.

Dare I post again...

I have a Dell Latitude... and thus stems my hatred from computers. I hate it with a passion... and their customer service is no more bearable than the computer...

No experience with Dell customer service. Lenovo ain't exactly winning me over either (their customer service people are RUDE). People seem to hate the Indian call centers but aside from some understandable issues comprehending a word or two, I have never ever had a Indian based CS rep treat me poorly on the phone. Happens all the time with Lenovo's Atlanta CS reps.

To each his or her own.


PS. Small and lite is simply the best way to go. You look silly in class if you have a 17 inch bohemoth.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Can you use a Mac in law school?
« on: January 13, 2007, 10:43:29 PM »
The answer as everyone else has responded is it depends on the software your school is using. Secure exam has MAC and PC versions. From what I understand from our IT people, secure exam actually runs BETTER on the mac OS-X platform than windows. They have had several issues with the software running on windows platforms but none that I know of running on OS-X.


Incoming 1Ls / Re: Two questions - computer and note-taking
« on: January 10, 2007, 09:38:57 PM »
Have you considered a convertable Tablet PC? Gateway, Toshiba and Lenovo are the most popular manufacturers. I used a Lenovo X41 Tbalet this past semester. The tablet writing function was VERY helpful reproducing our discussions surrounding counter and cross claims in regards to diversity and supplemental jurisdiction. My notes wouldn't make much sense without the diagrams and the diagrams are much harder to make with a touchpad or mouse.


Incoming 1Ls / Re: questions about 1L LIFE
« on: January 07, 2007, 05:32:00 PM »
I have several questions about 1L LIFE.

1) how many hours do you study each day?
2) any time for leisure activities?
3) is it really that intense?

Sounds like you're really stressing out. I read a great guide that helped me get through first and second year. It's called Law School 101 and it was written by an attorney who wanted to give people a head's up about what to expect and how to deal with it. Just a suggestion in case you're having a hard time. It really helped me and my friends.

Holy hell!! I wish that I could wave a wand and make all the damn trolls shilling for their own products go away.

True dat. True.


Incoming 1Ls / Re: questions about 1L LIFE
« on: January 07, 2007, 05:28:42 PM »
1) I spent the first few weeks of last semester at school from 0730 am to 830pm. I can't truly say I spent every second studying but I did avoid to a great degree socializing for long periods. This was hard as there was some pressure to fit into a "group" - something similar to what I felt some 15 years ago in high school, with some of the clique factor thrown in there. It wasn't until the last month of the semester that I setled into a study group. I reccomend waiting till at least the first month or so to see if a study group others any benefits.

2) Yes, but that time was spent with my family rather than any law school friends. If you don't have family then I can see how NOT being part of a group could make your life "lonely." The prospective, from outsiders, was important to the degree that it helped me chill out on a daily basis.

3) Here is where I feel duped. Yes, as others have said it was intense when we had a paper due. At St Thomas we have the twist of having midterms which add strees a month into law school. You don't see the fruits of the stress until finals period come. Midterms give you some confidence, the best benefit being that you have an actual understanding of what you professor's expectations are answer wise. Plus, since they were worth anywhere from 10-30 percent of our grade they reduce some of the stress of finals period. The reason why i feel duped is that, despite all that you may hear in this forum and elsewhere, law school just isn't as "crazy" as people have made it out to be. If you strike a balance between your pursuits and understand that law school is just one of them, you simply should be fine in this regard.


Fine.  Don't worry about it.  Buy a computer that will break the first time you set it down hard.  I don't care.

I watched a classmate's HP do this. He didn't even drop it that hard. The optical drive now refuses to keep closed - rather amusing to watch it fly open as he tilts the laptop to place it in his computer bag.

I'm not saying don't buy HP - he is still happy with his purchase. I'm just saying you get what you pay for and if you can put up with this type of result, then by all means, make that purchase.


i think im going to drop the 2k and get the tablet.


You know, when we had this discussion last cycle, I recall that quite a few people talked about getting the tablets, so I figured I'd see a bunch of them this year at school.

I have not seen a single one.  Zero.  Kinda surprising.

Popular? no. Besides my X41 tablet there is 3 gateway's in my class. In hindsight, I would still make the same choice. I just wish Lenovo would have gotten the X60 tablet out much much sooner.

Come to think of it, configured the way I want it (with the higher resultion screen) and a few speed related options, the total comes to nearly $3200!

a little too rich for my tastes.....


Incoming 1Ls / Re: Go ahead and buy a Mac
« on: November 26, 2006, 08:15:23 PM »
Michigan supports Macs for everything, and the new Intel-based Macs are allowed for exams.  An astonishing percentage of the 1L class came in with Macs (myself included, but that was a given ;))  One more reason to love my school.

The whole mac vs pc thing this summer ended up being a moot point at St Thomas. Our school uses both the mac and pc versions of secureexam. The funny thing was that pc people, including myself, had initial problems making it work on our laptops. No such problems with the macs :)


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