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Black Law Students / Re: I know you know these negroes
« on: June 14, 2006, 12:48:24 PM »
You met Rasean in college.  He was impressed with your smarts, you marveled at his don't-take-sh!t-from-anyone attitude, because, face it, you've taken a lot of sh!t in your time, but all that sh!t is over, goddamit!  Rae was your weed hook-up (which made you pretty damn valuable in your own circle), your "playa" guru, dispensing advice on how to tap any ass of any size and any color at any time, and general good times guy who always got a blunt for you when you stopped by his room.  Rae is cool as hell to hang with, but you've seen him do some grimey sh!t sometimes.  Like that time when he fvcked his boy's chick.  Or when you caught him greedily staring at your girl's a$$ at that party that time.  You realize that while you and Rae are cool, you can't really trust him all that much.  You sure as hell wouldn't leave him alone with your girl.  After a few semesters, Rae "leaves" school because "the sh!t is weak, son.  You ain't neva' goan make dat cheddar doin' this sh!t, feel me?"  He probably had a point though, since he was majoring in communications.  Some time after college, you randomly bump into Rae at the mall.  He's "doing his thing", but also going to school part time.  He seems somewhat proud of this.  You press a little and find out that he's 4 years into his Associates.  You make your pleasantries and quickly leave, wondering who that beat-up chickenhead standing a few feet behind him and looking you up and down was.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Soon to be 2L willing to answer questions
« on: June 07, 2006, 02:50:03 PM »
I'm sad...  :'(

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Soon to be 2L willing to answer questions
« on: June 06, 2006, 06:38:06 AM »
This is so sweet.  I'm an incoming RU-N 1L and I routinely look for threads like these.

I'm interested in your experiences at the prosecutors office.  What do they make you do all day?  Is it paid?  Probably not, huh?

I'm assuming you want to go into criminal law of some sort.  I'm interested in that as well, and even though it's very possible that I'll end up changing my mind at some point, as it stands right now ciminal law looks like the only thing that can hold my interest.  The problem is that every time it comes up someone mentions the paltry salary that prosecutors earn.  Would you be able to comment on this?  I don't want to chase money as a career, but I do have a certain lifestyle for myself in mind and 40K a year just isn't going to cut it.

I'm going to milk this.  Sorry.

What are the teachers like?  I've met a few of them and they seem OK, but chatting them up over a glass of merlot is a far cry from sitting in their classes.  Are there any classes/professors I should watch out for, either for general difficulty or other reasons?

Guess that's it for now.  Thanks a bunch for doing this.

Here's the standard advice, and don't dismiss it because it's not lengthy.

Unless you're determined to into BigLaw (which it doesn't sound like you are), follow the money.  If you finish in the top 1/3 at Brooklyn or Cardozo you'll be fine in terms of job prospects and much better than fine in terms of debt.  And even if you don't, so what?  You still saved yourself $30K in loans.  That's the difference between being $60K in debt vs. $90K.  That's not insignificant.

Remember, nearly everyone who attends a t100 law school finds a decent paying job.  It may not be a dream job, but it'll almost certainly pay enough for you to be comfortable.  And the fewer loans you have, the more you can enjoy whatever money you earn.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Debt
« on: April 24, 2006, 06:11:41 PM »
Your GPA is nice.  My advice: take another year, scrape together $1500 and take an LSAT prep course.  If you bump your score up another 8-10, or even 5-6 points, you'll have much better options.  Make up some story about your dying grandmother that will explain your previous score, and write and addendum about it.  I don't even know you and I know that you're at a crucial junction.  Don't rush this, man.  Think it all through.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Debt
« on: April 24, 2006, 03:01:34 PM »
Screw this sugarcoated soft talk.  This guy is about to make a major decision, let's give it to him straight.

Dude.  $200,000.  $1500-$1600/month for longer than you can conceivably imagine (you can't really plan beyond a few years at any given time, and even that's a stretch most of the time).  Let those numbers and what they mean settle in.  Let it marinate. 

That's rent for a decent place and nice car.  A mortgage.  A condo.  Investments.  Vacations.  Leisure.  TIME!! Time that you could spend doing something enjoyable.  Time that you won't get back.  Take your pick.  You will NEVER be able to look at those payments and not think about what else you could be doing with it.  If you fall into the middle of the road and earn $50-70K, you're going to be talking some serious regret.

Planning to have kids?  Your wife better be caking it.  BTW, that's a lot of debt to take on in a marriage, and an astute woman will see that and consider it.

$200K?  The f.uck outta here.  Right now you're designing the blueprint for your own prison and giving yourself a life sentence.

Dude, don't believe the hype.  Three years is nothing.  By the time you feel like you really can't take anymore, it's almost over. 

Personal note: the last 3 years have been hell for me.  I'm dead serious man, I'm living in a city I can't stand, surrounded by people who are at best background noise, have been soul searching the whole time and only recently finding anything worthwhile (i.e. answers).  I can't imagine that law school could contrive any situation as stressful and anxiety provoking as what I've gone through.  I've had to plot, scheme, edure sh*t, eat sh*t, and bide my time until I could plan a way out.  But you know what, it's pretty much over and even though I wish I could have avoided it all, I'm stronger for it.  That's life.  Some of it sucks ass, some of it kicks it.  The Madness will never stop, dude, it just bypasses your sometimes. To me, your choice looks like a) suck it up for 3 years, or b) pay out the ass for the next couple of decades to skirt three years of unpleasantness.  Don't do it, man, don't do it.

Look, you can reason that going to a law school where you're the most comfortable will maximize your chances of making it to the top of your class.  True.  But what is also likely to be true is that everyone else attending that school is of the same mindset.  Given the absence of any other information (which will continue to be absent since you can't see the future) you should put yourself right at the mean, and look at what that will get you.  The fact that you guess $50K shows that you have at least given this some consideration.

Did you say something about having the option of going to another school for much less debt?  Unless that's in a place where you really don't want to practice after law school, go there.  Or at least seriously consider it.  You have options.  Not the least among them is taking another year to think and come up with even more options.  I dunno about four years in the service.  That sounds to me like a decision that has more to do with avoiding something than a strong desire to move toward something.  Unless you're avoiding something really bad, be careful not to make such a decision.  But, you would know better than me.

This has been a longer post than I intended.  I usually lurk more than I post, but i felt like this needed my attention.  Hope it helps some.

I graduated RU-NB, and got into RU-N with no problem.  But I was also out of school for 3 years before applying.

Nice bump.

I'd like to hear more on the lack of class rankings in RU-N, if anyone can comment knowledgeably.  Who am I kidding?  Juicy speculation is also welcome. 

I had no idea this was the case and when I accepted, and it only makes me more excited to go.  I'm inclined to believe that the policy goes a long way towards relieving tensions, anxiety and unnecessary competitiveness between classmates.

Can anyone comment on RU-N grading curves (after all, SOME competition is necessary)?

Besides law students and the admissions committees, that is.

Maybe I'm oversimplifying this a bit, but I just can't see employers eagerly awaiting the new rankings, and comparing them against resumes.  Why are all so worried about it?

Incoming 1Ls / Re: The Official I'm Going to X School Thread
« on: April 05, 2006, 05:32:20 AM »
Rutgers - Newark.  Full ride plus cash in the pocket.  I'll be living at home (i.e. with my mom) in Jersey City, which I'm not thrilled about, but for a free law degree I think I can suck it up.

Hopefully, it'll only be for a year or so, until my fiancee can move into town.

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