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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: It's the MYERS BRIGG Thread
« on: July 14, 2006, 11:09:59 AM »
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I'm borderline between INTJ and INTP.  I've scored both at various points in my life.  Some things that characterize me from both descriptions are:


INTPs are pensive, analytical folks. They may venture so deeply into thought as to seem detached, and often actually are oblivious to the world around them.

Precise about their descriptions, INTPs will often correct others (or be sorely tempted to) if the shade of meaning is a bit off. While annoying to the less concise, this fine discrimination ability gives INTPs so inclined a natural advantage as, for example, grammarians and linguists.

INTPs are relatively easy-going and amenable to most anything until their principles are violated, about which they may become outspoken and inflexible. They prefer to return, however, to a reserved albeit benign ambiance, not wishing to make spectacles of themselves.

A major concern for INTPs is the haunting sense of impending failure. They spend considerable time second-guessing themselves. The open-endedness (from Perceiving) conjoined with the need for competence (NT) is expressed in a sense that one's conclusion may well be met by an equally plausible alternative solution, and that, after all, one may very well have overlooked some critical bit of data. An INTP arguing a point may very well be trying to convince himself as much as his opposition. In this way INTPs are markedly different from INTJs, who are much more confident in their competence and willing to act on their convictions. This is simultaneously strange and reasonable since I seem to fit both of these typologies, and I am frequently in conflict with myself.


To outsiders, INTJs may appear to project an aura of "definiteness", of self-confidence. This self-confidence, sometimes mistaken for simple arrogance by the less decisive, is actually of a very specific rather than a general nature; its source lies in the specialized knowledge systems that most INTJs start building at an early age. When it comes to their own areas of expertise -- and INTJs can have several -- they will be able to tell you almost immediately whether or not they can help you, and if so, how. INTJs know what they know, and perhaps still more importantly, they know what they don't know.

Being very judicious, decisions come naturally to them; indeed, they can hardly rest until they have things settled, decided, and set.

Natural leaders, Masterminds are not at all eager to take command of projects or groups, preferring to stay in the background until others demonstrate their inability to lead.In a sense, Masterminds approach reality as they would a giant chess board, always seeking strategies that have a high payoff, and always devising contingency plans in case of error or adversity.

Personal relationships, particularly romantic ones, can be the INTJ's Achilles heel. While they are capable of caring deeply for others (usually a select few), and are willing to spend a great deal of time and effort on a relationship, the knowledge and self-confidence that make them so successful in other areas can suddenly abandon or mislead them in interpersonal situations.

Probably the strongest INTJ assets in the interpersonal area are their intuitive abilities and their willingness to "work at" a relationship. Although as Ts they do not always have the kind of natural empathy that many Fs do, the Intuitive function can often act as a good substitute by synthesizing the probable meanings behind such things as tone of voice, turn of phrase, and facial expression.

Essetentially, I'm (simultaneously) alternately insecure and self-confident, lazy and a perfectionist, and introspective and ruthlessly self-analytic far beyond the point of a flaw.

I agree with OES.  It's not a matter of fear, really (except for the terminally ignorant and self-loathing), but more an issue of comfort.

I'm pretty comfortable around most people, but I seem to be the most uncomfortable about american blacks.  Individually, we can be as comfortable with each other as anyone else.  But people are different when they are in groups, and it's only when I'm around large groups of american black people that I feel somewhat uncomfortable.  I must not be the only one feeling uncomfortable because I'll catch funny looks all the time if I'm walking in a ghetto area and I'm not dressed like one of the locals.

I use the qualifier "american black" because, as has been said here, culture plays a huge part.  The culture of carribbean blacks is very different from the culture of american blacks.  I moved from Jamaica to a very upscale, all white neighborhood.  I didn't have any contact with other blacks for 5 years (7-12 yrs old), and then moved to Jersey City.  By then it was mostly too late.  I had absolutely nothing in common with most of the black kids I saw around me, even though I thought some of them were cool as hell.  The only black kid I spent time with was from Ghana, and he felt similarly displaced.

So, I mean there are reasons why some blacks don't gravitate towards other blacks, and it doesn't have to be fear or elitism.  Sometimes there's resistance on both sides, and it's easier to just move along.  People become friends with whoever they become friends with for the same reason as everyone else: the need to belong.

Speaking as a person on the other side of the fence, though, I'll say that it sometimes troubles me that I feel so disconnected from others of my race, mainly because it's often seen as an affront to the black race, a problem either of my creation or society's, rather than simply as a consequence of being me.

Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: Introduce yourself to BLSD
« on: June 27, 2006, 09:45:34 PM »
Forgot to do this.

I'm not gonna say my name.  Habit.  Anyway, I'm a 25 year old dude about to start living in Jersey City.  I start Rutgers - Newark in the fall ('06).  I did my undergrad in psych at RU in new brunswick.

Quote from: mivida2k
The heart disease and cholesterol is related to fast food and high fat foods that African-Americans, particularly low income, tend to eat on a regular basis.  Also, the daily stresses of being African-American and the drama we deal with.

I could be wrong, but I think you're mistaken (...that made me laugh).

According to my doctor, being black is a risk factor for heart disease and diabetes, independent of other factor, such as income, for sodium-rich foods.  In other words, if you're black and eat and MickeyDs, you're still more likely to develop heart disease and diabetes than if you are white and eat at Burger King.  It is a genetic predisposition to an illness targeted at a particular group of people, who, as it just so happens, we refer to as a "race".  That seems pretty compelling evidence that genetics plays a significant role in race.  That is, it is compelling in it's own right, assuming we ignore the fact that two black parents will have a black child.*

As for the article, the outcome was sad, but not really surprising.  It's like crabs in a bucket.  Only, it really isn't, because crabs can't help what they do while we, as human beings, can. 

The problem here was a lack of adequate leadership.  Blacks and Latinos lack strong leaders.  This is an especially difficult problem since only extraordinary leaders, men of vision, will serve to elevate the status Blacks and Latinos to something resembling equality.  Men like that are hard enough to find, even under ideal conditions.

* Note: that was mostly a retort to the statement that race isn't biological, which is an absurd assertion, and one which I know you don't share.

Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: Admissions Advice
« on: June 17, 2006, 08:08:21 PM »
I spent less than a paragraph talking about my socioeconomic status, but my PS was peppered with references to it throughout.  In talking about other relevant subjects, I would hint at it (e.g. I made a joke about living with my mom, brother, and a legion of cockroaches who thought they owned the place, while discussing how my mom wanted me to be a doctor). I talked about my Mom's aspirations for me, and how trying to follow that wasn't good for me.  I moved on to talk about how deciding to pursue my own interests led me to achieve a great deal, gain experience elsewhere, and eventually a decision to attend law school.
Don't beat them over the head with some sob story about growin up poor; they've heard it before and you might sound like you're trying to buy sympathy.  Don't make it the primary subject of your PS.  Talk about other significant achievements, and how your SE background influenced your mindset and actions in pursuit of those achievements.  Remember, you're tough.  You went through a lot; you enjoyed the good, overcame the bad, and you're not sorry you went through it all because it made you the person you are today.


MoniLi, you hit a nerve with me.  Are you from Jamaica?

Lol, are you Jafakin?  ;)  And I'm from Bermuda, but I have friends from various Caribbean islands, including Jamaica.

Jamaian, born & bred.  Which means I (mostly) understand what's being said in reggae songs.  Sometimes it's pretty funny to see people's reactions when I tell them what they're dancing to.

A few months ago I was dropping stuff off at my xgf's place when this neighbor dude started talking to me about "ire" this and "mon" that.  It was dark and he faked it well enough for me to ask where he was from.

Him: Me from India, mon.


Hey, I'm all for connecting with other cultures, but jeez, how about some self-identity.

Instigating Negro - We've all seen this cat before. He can be found at the sight of any heated argument or fight. His kind is easy to spot because they are the ones giving the play-by-play analysis.

"Damn! He said yo momma look like Nilly-Vanilly!"
"Ohhh. . he gettin' on yo shoes, son! Said you copped them from "Just For Feet"
"Damn . .he said you ain't man enough to pick up them sticks in Madden."

For all of his loud-talking and attention for details, instigating negro is hardly ever seen in an actual fight or game of Madden or NBA Live.  In fact, Instigating Negro has become so proficent at his trade that whenever he is in an argument or challenge, he manages to divert the attention from himself onto somebody else.

James: "I'm about to whoop yo ass, punk!"
Instigator:"Oh word? You wasn't sayin' that when Mike was talkin' about how he kicked yo ass last week"
Mike: *starts laughing*
James: "What the hell you laughin' at!? I'll whoop yo ass too!"
Mike: *Stands up* "Do something then!"
Instigator: *Slips off into the crowd*

Last you heard, Instigating Negro had gotten a job as a commentator for WWE Smackdown!

Haven't seen him since high school.

MoniLi, you hit a nerve with me.  Are you from Jamaica?


Dibs on "I think Black People Are Awsome" guy!

lol aka the "I have lots of black friends" dude or is that someone else?

Not necessarily one in the same.  He may aspire to be that guy, but it depends on what stage you catch him in.

Don't forget his counterpart " xx~*~*oH My gAWd bLaCk guyZ r sOo haWt dO u leiK KanYe wEst? *~~* xox" girl. <shudder>

lmao I haven't seen someone write like that in years.

Me either, thankfully.  It was meant more to convey the sound of her voice and speech patterns.


Dibs on "I think Black People Are Awsome" guy!

lol aka the "I have lots of black friends" dude or is that someone else?

Not necessarily one in the same.  He may aspire to be that guy, but it depends on what stage you catch him in.

Don't forget his counterpart " xx~*~*oH My gAWd bLaCk guyZ r sOo haWt dO u leiK KanYe wEst? *~~* xox" girl. <shudder>


Dibs on "I think Black People Are Awsome" guy!

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