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Current Law Students / Re: Miami or Atlanta?
« on: October 14, 2008, 06:45:51 PM »
I think it's also worth it to consider that FL has no personal income tax.

True, but they will make up for it by murdering you when it comes to property taxes once you become a homeowner.

Current Law Students / Re: Miami or Atlanta?
« on: October 14, 2008, 02:20:09 PM »
I think you'd be happier in Atlanta.

Caveat: I hate Miami.

Current Law Students / Ideas for note topics
« on: October 11, 2008, 10:01:34 AM »
I'm on a secondary journal and I need to submit a note topic... and I'm stuck.... any direction on where to find ideas? The topic must relate to entertainment and/or technology. Thanks for any guidance, resources, etc.! If you have a topic idea, feel free to throw it out there!!! Thanks again!

Current Law Students / Re: Prepping for a Non-OCI biglaw interview?
« on: October 08, 2008, 09:29:52 AM »
If you are meeting with only one attorney, this would be a screening interview. Research the firm-- the practice areas you are interested in that they provide, recent firm achievements, awards, your interviewer's bio.

Be prepared to talk about 1) your ties to the area, 2) what you did this past summer (esp if you clerked; talk about the work you did), 3) your interest in the firm, 4) anything you have in common with the interviewer. They will try to pair you with an alumnus of your law school, so be prepared to talk about college football, the food in the cafeteria, how much you love the area, etc.

Ask questions about the type of work that person handles, how work is assigned in the department, how a summer associate would be utilized, first year associate training, what type of person they are looking for when deciding who to hire/promote. If you're a woman/minority, ask how the firm operates to recruit and retain minorities. If they have been recognized as a Top Firm for Women and you're a woman, ask them what makes it such a great workplace for women, etc.

Don't ask questions you can easily find the answers to. Most firms' websites detail how the summer program works-- eg: rotate through practice groups or you choose the practices you want to work with, assigned a summer mentor, etc. Instead ask questions that show you've done your homework. For example: "I see that all summer associates are given a mentor. How are they assigned? Is the mentor the person who provides feedback on projects?"

Don't be afraid to come into the interview with a physical list of questions. In fact, you should have those questions! Bring extra copies of your resume, list of references, writing sample and unofficial transcripts.

Most of all, be yourself, smile, shine your shoes ahead of time and come across as neat and pressed, fresh breath, and give a firm handshake. Be sure to send a prompt thank you note after the interview. Some people like email. I prefer to handwrite a quick note expressing my thanks and interest.

Good luck!

Job Search / Re: How's the job search going?
« on: October 08, 2008, 09:00:48 AM »
Top 20 transfer from T50 (law review at the old law school, journal at the new law school), good grades. 20 screening interviews, 7 callbacks. Did 6 of the callbacks. 3 offers so far, 3 outstanding, no dings yet.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Visiting Vanderbilt?
« on: September 15, 2008, 09:02:09 PM »
I had been planning to apply to law school after taking a year off after undergrad, but circumstances have changed, ha. I will be applying this winter. Vandy is on my list. Are there any formal opportunities to visit the VULS? How did you all go about setting up visits?

Call Vandy Law School Admissions. Schedule a tour. They'll be happy to show you the law school.

Job Search / Re: Callback Questions--any info/advice welcome
« on: September 13, 2008, 09:53:12 AM »
... Starting to wish I hadn't read this thread. I had pre-OCI screening interviews, but scheduled my callbacks to coincide with callbacks from OCI... now starting to think I should have scheduled them sooner...

Current Law Students / Corporations
« on: September 01, 2008, 01:22:45 PM »
What supps have you used for Corporations? Tx-- I have an assoc. prof who hasn't taught Corps before!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 159 Lsat, 3.9 GPA-Florida Schools
« on: July 27, 2008, 04:06:37 PM »
No, they are not easy to get, but why not go for broke if your goal is to accumulate wealth. The point being that law is not the best profession to choose if making money is your ultimate goal. Screw the degree, go be an actor or an entrepreneur. Law school is a good choice only if you think you will love the practice of law or you feel you can use a JD to break into a more lucrative profession.

That's your opinion. Others would disagree. There's anecdotal evidence to support both your argument and others.

Making money is many people's ultimate goal. They have a much better chance of doing this as a lawyer than as an entrepreneur or an actor. LOL. There is some statistic that suggests that only 1% of actors actually "make money." I think you'd have better luck as a lawyer.

Also, to become a investment banker or doing something in the financial sector would suggest that you like that line of work, as well. I've found most people in law don't like dealing with numbers. They are "words" people.

You may not become an insanely wealthy as a lawyer, but you are much more likely to lead a comfortable lifestyle than many other professions. The hours are long and the work is demanding. But you could say the same thing about a teacher, a bricklayer or an RN. It all depends on where your passion lies and what your salary expectations are. 

Sure there are lawyers making crap for money out there. There are also plenty making very good money. Still others fall in the middle. It's like any other profession. Not everyone in the field of law makes a million bucks. But if the OP wants to be a lawyer and make good money, let him worry about how to achieve that goal.

Current Law Students / Re: How to tell if an outline is good?
« on: July 27, 2008, 03:59:01 PM »
For all you 2Ls and beyond, is there anyway you can tell if an upper classmen's outline is good? I have heard that when structuring and making your own outline it is better to use someone else's outline who had the professor rather than a commercial outline, but how can you tell if that outline is good, or if the person who used it did well?

There really is no way to tell unless you know the person and their grade! It helps to get them from an upperclassman friend who 1) had that same prof, 2)using the same casebook and 3) your friend got a good grade. Otherwise, you really don't know what you're working with. However, it can be helpful to look at other, older outlines to get an idea of what you should be doing. But you should remember that everyone learns differently. Someone may be very successful writing Roman Numeral 1, bullet point, etc., whereas someone else is a visual learn and utilizes colors and tables and charts. Play around and see what works best for you.

Ultimately, the value of the outline isn't the final product. It's the hours you spend synthesizing your notes into the outline. During that process, you really learn to see how the material fits together. This stays in your brain and is very helpful on the exam.

Hope this helps!

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