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Syracuse / Syracuse Class of 2009
« on: February 11, 2006, 09:41:21 PM »
I just figured I'd get this started early since it seemed to be helpful to the people last year. I have been accepted and barring some miracles I'm pretty damn sure I'll be attending. I can't visit on the accepted student days because of school, but I'll be visiting during my spring break.(Mar. 6-8) I look forward to getting a dialog started with anybody attending or thinking about it. I'll also post my thoughts when I get back., take care everyone.   

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Wait List / On Hold at FSU 2006
« on: April 12, 2006, 08:29:45 PM »
So I got this letter today. I'm relived that it was not a rejection and my alma mater is at least giving me careful consideration. I checked out the thread from last year on this topic, and it appears that people were waiting well into June, can't say this prospect has me excited. Anyways just figure I'd like to touch base with others in this situation. And it'll give us a place to vent.

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Where should I go next fall? / Any Suggestion for editing this letter?
« on: March 22, 2006, 11:28:52 PM »
Iím going tomorrow morning early to drop this off at the FSU college of Law, any idea on improvement, or if this is good, would be appreciated.


Florida State College of Law Admissions,

   Iím writing to express my total and complete commitment to attending Florida State University College of Law if admitted. I have several explicit reasons for continuing my educational experience at Florida State. First and foremost is my commitment to helping the people and communities of the great state of Florida. I have lived here my entire life, and wish to help provide legal services in my home state.
   It is also my situation where I am going to have to finance my Legal education myself, so to be able to attend a state university will go a long way to enable me to gain this education. It is unfortunate that monetary issues are of primary concern in educational matters; however this is a reality that must be accepted.
   I have a great love for Florida State University and all of its traditions, to be able to complete my entire education here, would be a dream for me. Tallahassee has truly grown on me, and I now consider it my home as much as Ft. Lauderdale.
   Thank you again for taking these factors in consideration when reviewing my file.

            Sincerely,
 

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / How valuable is being 'Normal'?
« on: March 18, 2006, 06:10:09 PM »
This might seem a bit presumptuous but I like to think myself as being fairly Ďnormalí to the extent that I have fairly common interests. I like to watch football, drink beer, etc. Is being able to relate with the common man a positive, especially when acquiring new clients? Or is the legal profession dominated by introverts that are going to dislike me because Iím too ďFrattyĒ even though I was never in a Fraternity.  Iím sure that would be more the case at a T14 type school, but since Iím headed T2 Iím more interested in the professional atmosphere post-graduation.

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Denials / Penn State DING
« on: March 18, 2006, 04:27:05 PM »
This was my first (and hopefully last) rejection to a college at any level. I was a little upset, especially looking at LSN and the Waitlists/Acceptances in my range. The Orange bowl, now this, they have an enemy for life, lol. Whatever, I can only go to 1 school anyway. The whole dual campus and transitional location had me kind of turned off anyways; working in Philly would have been cool thoughÖ

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General Off-Topic Board / LSAT vs SAT
« on: March 13, 2006, 01:53:09 AM »
Iíve just been wondering if my correlation between these tests is normal or not. I took both tests with ďlittleĒ prep, meaning a few timed practice tests, but spent no time ďlearningĒ them. My SAT score was 1310, and my LSAT was 155. Granted I might have killed a good amount of brain cells along the way, but it seems like my LSAT performance was kinda low, and given I have no real love for math, this seems odd no?

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Syracuse Visit
« on: March 09, 2006, 05:13:34 PM »
Upon arrival at the Syracuse airport Iíd have to say that while not large, it seemed to be sufficient for the area. Rented a car, and the only car available was a Towncar and I was upgraded over my economy car for like 10 bucks a day more, which was sweet. I stayed at the Genesse Grande and it was very nice for the price. The first day we arrived in town around 4:30 so there wasnít much to do, so I walked around campus. The campus seemed very nice, and the architecture of some of the buildings was very striking, gothic in nature. ( though Iím no buff) The campus is very urban and in the middle of the downtown area. The students seemed very solemn and serious, at least compared to FSU where you see smiles and people socializing all the time. The cold obviously had something to do with it Iím sure.
   The city itself seemed old and dilapidated for the most part. The area known as Armory square seemed nice, and was obviously revitalized recently with many shops and bars.(more on it later) I ate the First night at the Dinosaur Bar-b-q, shocked doesnít even describe my reaction. I heard it was good, but being form the South I was skeptical. I can say in all honesty it was the best Bar-b-q I have ever had, and would recommend it to anyone. After that I was exhausted and went to sleep.
         Breakfast at the Hotel was good, and then went for my tour of the Law School. The building from the outside seemed nice, but nothing much compared to some of the others on campus. There is however a parking structure across the street dedicated to 2 and 3 Lís which is great especially given the cold. 1Lís park just a bit further, but still much closer then the 1 mile I walk almost everyday to class at FSU.
   The tour guide was an older 1L student(25), but she told me that around 75% of the class starts right out of undergrad. The library seemed OK, nothing special, and the rest of the building was nice. The courtroom I saw was very nice, with cameras and good technology throughout. The entire complex is wireless internet ready, and there was a tech support office if you had problems. The classrooms I saw were nice, better then Miamiís in my opinion. There were lockers and changing rooms, as my guide said people were always doing interviews on campus. This is contrary to the NALP report of only 16 firms doing OCI. I sat in on a class, it was a 1L elective, Employment Law. I have nothing to compare it too, but the professor seemed interesting and the students had thoughtful comments to add. He knew everyone by name without referring to a chart. The student in the class were all very nice to me, and were glad to have me. It seemed a very supportive bunch of kids.
   After the class I talked to financial aid and the career center. All the support staff, including the admissions and everyone was very helpful and went out of there way to accommodate me. They had Mid-terms later in the week (some graded, some not) yet were still able to help me in every regard. The financial aid officer told me everything I needed to know, but not to expect much in grants, maybe a few thousand, but when I asked they encouraged me to appeal the scholarship decision. (I received none) The career lady was very honest, and told me that the TOP jobs go to the top students, but the reputation is strong, and if you work at a smaller firm for a few years and succeed, a lateral movement to a bigger firm is very doable.
   That night I went out to Armory square to se what the nightlife had to offer. It was quiet but it was also a Tuesday night. I found a local girl to talk to, and she showed me a very good time! :). The bars were nice, for a smallish city, better then Tallahassee, at least in terms of quality, maybe not people.
   The next day I went to look at apartments, in a variety of locations, most of the ones in the city seemed old, and had not much to offer in terms of amenities. I found 1 place I really liked called Newbury which is 1 exit south on 81(5 mins away), and they told me it was mostly Graduate and Law students and it included utilities (a big deal as they can be 200+ a month). For about 675 you get a 2 bedroom thats 1000sqft+, that included full kitchen appliances(dishwasher!), and by far the nicest and newest ones. Iím looking for a roommate so if your thinking Syracuse go ahead and PM me. I could write a lot more but this is going on forever, if anybody has any questions Iíll try to answer them as best as I can.
         To close, Being from Florida, Syracuse is a huge adjustment, but I could see myself there. It is not the best school, but I think its can provide you with all your looking for, if you are willing to put in the extra effort and legwork

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Here is my possible scenario, I have already been accepted at ĎCuse and it is looking like it might be my best overall option. I have been offered no money and will be paying full pop all by myself(150K of debt). The average starting salary for private sector is 60K which is all its is reasonable to assume I would make for this exercise.(though Iíd hope I could bust into that 100K range for 100+ firms) Now Iím interviewing at Merrill Lynch over the phone next week, and will probably be called back to the Jacksonville office, as I am a pretty good interviewer. Iím not sure which division they would place me in, but more likely then not I will be making 35ish, with pretty good upward mobility. They also offer up to 8K a year tuition repayment for employees, but being in Jacksonville will limit my ability to attend a ďworthyĒ institution. I have already taken the LSAT twice so a retake in the immediate future seems useless. My degree is in Economics, so I donít know how useful or reasonable an MBA is. Also Iím not sure Iím into sales(I feel like it might compromise my integrity to "push" people into things, though I'd probally be alright at it), but wouldnít mind an analyst job, but apparently those are hard to come by. It sure is keeping me up at night. All this said I do have a desire to study the Law and have a great respect for it, and feel my strengths lead me in the direction of Law. What do you guys think?

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Wait List / Hofstra Waitlist
« on: March 02, 2006, 03:23:06 PM »
Not surprised, nor that disappointed. I figure I have a couple other better offers in hand, thinking about a withdraw, but the knowledge to just see if I could have made it or not, is all thatís keeping me form the withdraw, what do you guys think?

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Acceptances / Accepted at Syracuse!
« on: February 12, 2006, 10:19:40 PM »
Just wanted to get a thread started for everyone here who is considering attending Syracuse. This way we can compare notes/plans. I for one am waiting on a few things, but barring a miracle, it looks like I'm heading to Syracuse. I'm super excited and looking forward to meeting future/potential classmates.

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