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« on: April 08, 2011, 11:43:12 AM »
The most important factor in your decision should be where you want to live/practice.
Scholarship students tend to be at the top of the class (but not always). Those in the top 25% of a law class, who get some legal experience while they are in school, don't usually have too bad of a time finding work (even at T4). There are exceptions, obviously, but I would say that the preceding statements are 80% accurate.
If you have no ties to a city, firms will be more cautious in hiring you. They don't want to invest that money in a new associate only to have them get homesick. So the more ties you have to an area, the better.
I hope these thoughts help. Let us know what you decide!
« on: April 07, 2011, 04:05:10 PM »
Couldn't we say the same thing about most bachelor's degrees?
As far as your grade improvement, it comes from the fact that you aren't wasting time going deep into each issue because you barely know anything. Instead, you are forced to spend the majority of the time discussing the facts and applying them to the problem. I came to the same realization in law school.
If we made it shorter, there would be even more competition for the handful of jobs available. If anything, we should add a year.
« on: April 07, 2011, 11:47:44 AM »
I'm no expert, but I think you should be fine. LSAC does not include pass/fail hours in the GPA, and even if they did, a 0 hour course will have 0 effect on your GPA.
« on: April 06, 2011, 02:51:17 PM »
Thanks. I would take UT over STCL all day long too!
Not offended... just wanted to splain myself...
« on: April 06, 2011, 02:27:04 PM »
The good news is that most schools weigh the LSAT more than the GPA. Some go up to about 75%, but I think average is about 60% (all a guess based on experience).
Because of your low GPA, your application will be reviewed at each place. I don't think you are an auto admit because of your GPA; at the same time, however, you aren't an auto-reject because of your LSAT.
Spend a significant amount of time on the application. There is a free checklist in the book linked in my signature, it might help.
Good luck, let us know what happens!!
« on: April 06, 2011, 02:21:30 PM »
1. LOR's have to go to LSAC with the correct form completed by your recommender.
2. LSAC GPA is based on a 4.0 for each hour you attempted. Sometimes it's the same if you only went to one school and they are on a 4.0 scale. On the LSAC website, I think they give you numerical values used to compile this.
3. Your resume will usually be submitted to the law school through LSAC. You will also have to input much of the information on the law school application. Do not put "see resume."
« on: April 06, 2011, 02:12:50 PM »
I am a practicing appellate attorney.
The reasoning is that a decent NY-area school will give you a better opportunity in NYC than going to school in DC. You stated that you want to be in NYC and have family ties to the region. The connection to NYC will help when it comes time to get a job.
In NYC, Cardozo is better than Rutgers.
« on: April 06, 2011, 02:05:23 PM »
Graduating from South Texas, even if you are on the moot court team, will NOT give you the same opportunities in Texas that UT does. For one, most bigger firms (or boutiques that are formed from large-firm partner defections) will not even look at a South Texas grad for an entry-level position unless he/she is within the top 5% of the class. Those firms would, however, be willing to consider a UT grad that was further back in the class rankings.
Moot court members as STCL, won't be on par with UT law review, but they will get some interviews. My point is that in the Houston market for sure, STCL moot court grads will get similar opportunities as undistinguished UT grads. And, I have no doubt that the successful moot court grads have no trouble finding a job.
Here is an article I found:
South Texas College of Law Wins National Advocacy Competition
February 28, 2011--South Texas College of Law students picked up the school's 107th national advocacy competition title this past weekend in Virginia.
The team of John Crump, Mira Haykal, and Nick Parker won the 40th Annual William B. Spong, Jr., Memorial Moot Court Competition sponsored by the College of William and Mary, defeating New York University School of Law in the final round.
The students argued a hypothetical case dealing with Congressional power to withhold cost of living raises from federal judges. The team was coached by Associate Dean T. Gerald Treece, Rob Galloway '91, Courtney Carlson '08, Jessica Sykora '08, and Paige Woodard Mitchell '05.
I bet that none of these kids are in the top 10% of their class, and all will have no trouble finding work.
But, the point was that rankings go out the window when you are trying to practice in a particular location. Not that STCL would ever be ranked ahead of UT law. I used it as an example of a situation where some T4 students are competing with a T1 school. I guarantee STCL moot court students have an advantage over a Michigan grad in Houston.
« on: April 05, 2011, 12:43:50 PM »
« on: April 05, 2011, 12:38:58 PM »
Rutgers, unless you get into Cardozo.
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