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Law School Admissions / Re: How do I get from high school to law?
« on: February 22, 2011, 12:42:50 PM »
Assuming this is a serious question, the answer is that you can't.  Go to college, graduate with the best possible GPA you can (3.8 or better), practice like hell for the LSAT and blow the test away (165 or better), then apply to the best law school you can get into.

hey everyone im 17 and a senior in high school i was wonder what is the first steps that i have to do to become a lawyer straight out of high school so i can get my career started

The only thing I would add is that you should go to the best college possible, and take real courses that interest and actually challenge you rather than a fluff major with easy classes.  If you like science, a science degree is actually the best pre-law degree because it will allow you to take the patent bar in addition to the regular bar exam. 

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Tier Rankings?
« on: February 21, 2011, 08:48:51 AM »
The most important thing to pay attention to is the hierarchy in the area you want to work.  If you want to work in the Twin Cities area, it goes like this: UMinnesota > William Mitchell > St. Thomas > Hamline

If you want to work in Philly it's Penn >>>Temple/Villanova>Rutgers-Camden>>Widener

You run into more problems when you get to markets like San Francisco that have heaps of law schools and where the market is something like Stanford> Berkeley> UC Davis > UC Hastings, etc.  and you're still in the 1st tier.

So your main concern is what potential the law school in question has at getting you a job where you actually want to work.  Don't go halfway across the country to some random Tier 2 school just because it's the highest ranked one (according to US News) to accept you.

This is exactly on point. 

To choose between BU and Buffalo, you need to determine where you will be practicing.  Making the top 10% in Buffalo (which will be easier than BU) may put you in a better position where you want to practice than doing reasonably well at BU.  Maybe it won't.  But you need to know the answer before you decide. 

The job market isn't bad for top 10% and Law Review at most schools.  Work your butt off.

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For information on personal statements, you can visit this law school info website.  I found this information useful when I wrote my statement. 

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BTW... I'm 22 years old, and got a job with a start up company last year, that has taken off. Guess how much I am making now? Almost 70K annual salary... Not bad for a 2010 undergrad.... I didn't include that in my initial post either.

How much does the district court pay you???

Have you paid off your law school debts yet???



I'm not trying to be an a-hole, and do appreciate your insight. I just think you have some ill concieved thoughts travelling through your mind. Who honestly passes judgment on someone based on their LSAT score?

It sucks that people are using this site to throw around insults.  If you really want to go to law school you can do it.  I agree with the poster who suggested that you take a pay cut and work at a law firm for a while.  Within 6 months you should get real perspective on whether or not you would like being a lawyer.  You should also find a couple professors from undergrad that you did well in their class and stay in touch with them, you are going to need some good undergrad LOR's to overcome a lower GPA.  Check out this law school information website.  It offers a free book on law school admissions--read it.

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What do your junior and senior year grades look like?  Admissions committees look for an upward trend.  It will also be very important that any letters of recommendation you get (yes you will need them for applications) are from professors who are familiar with your work.  If your lsat comes in below 160, take a prep course and get it above 160.  Visit the law school information site. If you can get into the 160's and a couple of professor LOR's you can get into a school.  Not going to be T14. 

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Non-ABA versus ABA
« on: February 05, 2011, 03:57:32 PM »
If you want to live and practice anywhere other than CA, you need to go to ABA school.  If there is no shot in hell at an ABA school, you can go to on unaccredited school.  But, you will have to spend at least 3-5 years in CA practicing before you can even take a bar exam in a different state.  Non-ABA can't usually waive into different jurisdictions even if they have experience.  Check out http://www.law-schoolcoach.com/Considering-Law-School/Choosing-Law-Schools.htm

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Here is another link that is actually free and has a lot of the same information:
http://www.law-schoolcoach.com

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You may want to consider using the essay for a reach school.  It does really border on gimmick, but it would certainly make you stand out.  I found a usefull article on personal statments.  Here is the link: http://www.law-schoolcoach.com/Considering-Law-School/Law-School-Personal-Statement.htm

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