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Job Search / Re: Fall Internship v. Fall Judicial Externship
« on: May 04, 2011, 09:23:31 AM »
I interned for a federal judge.  I was allowed to observe all hearings that were going on when I was present, and spent a little bit of social time with the judge.  The work was mostly reading pleadings and making notes for the judge so that he didn't have to read every word.  I did do a research project that was used in an opinion the judge published.  Out of the internship, I scored an interview with another federal judge for a clerkship and a job interview with a botique firm. 

Falcon is spot on.  Make your decision based on where you want to practice law.  See if you can find out which firms participate in OCI at each school.  That should give you an idea of where you could potentially find work from each school. 

The GPA requirements seem high, you need consider what your class rank % needs to be to keep them.  Sometimes the GPA is negotiable if you talk to admissions. 

If these are your only two choices, I would make the decision by which school you would want to pay for if you lost your scholarship.  That way, no matter what happens, you will be in the best spot.

Good luck, and let us know how it works out.

Job Search / Re: Fall Internship v. Fall Judicial Externship
« on: May 03, 2011, 09:12:30 AM »
I have done both, here are my thoughts.  As far as future employement, they are just about equal.  Many firms -- even small ones -- will keep outstanding clerks as lawyers.  If they don't, they are great contacts and will sometimes help you find work.  Judges often know a lot of people and can also help you find work.

I, personally, learned more about practicing law working in my clerkships than working for a judge.  If you need the money right now, I would lean towards mid-level firm.  UNLESS, one of the judicial internships is with a Federal Judge. 

Good luck!! 

Job Search / Re: getting into biglaw a year after graduating???
« on: May 02, 2011, 09:14:49 AM »
Another option, though not optimal given your situation, is to spend a year clerking for a judge.  Judges often hire clerks who have been out of school a while.  For you, state appellate court is a possibility.  Idk what 3.5 translates into for class rank, but if you finished top 10% with Law Review experience, you can also try some USDC's. 

Big firms aggressively recruit former clerks. 

The right school for you will depend more on where you want to live/practice law than the rankings.  Most of the schools you have listed are a stretch for you. And, they are pretty spread out.  Each region that you would want to live in has its own ranking of schools that you can figure out by researching the local firms and talking to local lawyers. 

Thank you for your service.  Ufortuantely, though, (due to the multitude of deployments over the last decade) law schools are full of students with combat/leadership experience.  So, that won't be a huge boost; but it doesn't hurt. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 3.7 GPA, 167 LSAT, Student Athlete
« on: April 29, 2011, 12:28:29 PM »
Law school numbers is the best place for individual school what if's.  The link is above. 

If you want to be in Atlanta, look at some big firm (the ones with international practices) websites for Atlanta associates.  You will get a flavor of where they are hiring from. 

For instance I looked at the associates from Hunton & Williams' Atlanta office.  Of 19, there were 4 from Michigan, 3 from Emory, 3 from GA State, and 2 from UVA.  90% of the associates were on Law Review.  This shows that Hunton is on the OCI at Michigan, Emory, GA State, and probably UVA and that you need to be on law review and at the top of your class regardless of school.  12/19 at Hunton come from 4 schools.   Do this same test for the other bigfirms in Atlanta, and you will get a good flavor for which schools place well in the region.   

If you are ready for the LSAT, and submit a flawless application, you should be fine. 

There are many skills that you should highlight througout your application.  You can find the skills that law schools look for in this free law school admissions article under "other factors."  Make sure your application gives evidence of the things that admissions committees are looking for, and highlight the uniqueness of your personality. 

If you do the work and get a 175+ on LSAT, I think that you will get to choose from acceptances. 

Good luck!!!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 3.7 GPA, 167 LSAT, Student Athlete
« on: April 28, 2011, 01:51:37 PM »
If it were me, I would be thinking either Emory or U of GA.  GA is slightly lower-ranked, but the in-state tuition makes it attractive. (Your scores seem like a strech for the T5, I don't think that the rest of the T14 would be that advantageous if you know you want to live in ATL)

The work you are describing is typically big-firm work.  To qualify for one of those jobs in Atlanta you probably have to get onto law review, and hired for a clerkship.  Realistically, you need to be thinking top 10% after your first year.  OCI is incredibly competitive and many of the firms that have international work use class rank or GPA cut-offs fop interview candidates.  You should also seriously consider learning a foreign langauge other than Spanish. 

If you don't land a clerkship, you will probably have to hire in as a lateral.  Big firms typically hire young associates from their summer associate class. 

Good luck, and let us know how it all works out...

While the difference in ranking will follow you for a long time, some tier 4s are much better than others.  Great example is in the Houston market:  South Texas v. Texas Southern.  South Texas graduates have a huge advantage over TSU--even the top 10%.  The right law school for you will depend on too many factors for any list to give you the answer.   

You are still very young, I wouldn't worry too much about the time commitment.  The real question is whether you would enjoy being a lawyer or not.  If you would, go to the best law school for you. 

Your concern about what people would think if you sold your house and moved to go to law school should not be an issue.  The fact you mention it signals that you probably need further consideration on whether being a lawyer is the right move for you.   Law school for the sake of extra options = a bad idea. 

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