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Transferring / Re: At the risk of getting booed off the board, lol :)
« on: March 08, 2006, 09:02:10 PM »
Not to get too personal, but fourth language? Sounds like you have some pretty solid soft factors going for you. Especially considering the LSAT. If English is not your first language you can write a hell of an addendum.

Transferring / Re: At the risk of getting booed off the board, lol :)
« on: March 08, 2006, 06:39:13 PM »
Riaroso, if you were sick, or miserable because your boyfriend dumped you the night before, or you couldn't sleep and were tired, or you just know you didn't do your best, you can cancel the test and you won't get a score.  So you needn't worry about some outside factor making you do terrible.  On the other hand, if you bomb it for no apparent reason, how is it not fair to make you keep that score?

The key is to make sure you're fully prepared for the test the first time.  That's the only way to plan to take the LSAT.  If you don't feel like you did your very best, you cancel your score and resume studying for the next time it's administered.

Mega-Dittos here. If you get sick (or even if it just didn't feel 'right') you can cancel and it doesn't hurt you. Imagine if the tests weren't averaged? Candidates could sit for test after test and simply submit the one score they got a little lucky with.

I scored 5 points below where I was practicing, but I didn't want to risk scoring even lower and bringing down my average. If there was no averaging (and therefore no risk of bringing down my score) I would've sat again (and maybe even again) until I got the score I felt I 'desreved'.

Transferring / Re: At the risk of getting booed off the board, lol :)
« on: March 08, 2006, 02:51:10 PM »
Depends on the school. A good starting point is here: Basically if you don't see a school on that list they probably take the average. What you'll need to do is investigate a specific school's policy when you're applying.

As for it 'not being fair', I disagree but that's an arguement for another topic.

Transferring / Re: At the risk of getting booed off the board, lol :)
« on: March 06, 2006, 12:54:28 PM »
I had a 2.94 (at the start of the admission cycle - I moved up to a 3.02 after fall grades came in) from a large public and scored a 169 on the LSAT. I got into several T1 schools with scholarships:
You say you want to go to school in California. I didn't apply to any, but I think I could have gotten into Davis or Hastings with my numbers. With a 3.4 and a >162 LSAT I think you'd be fine too.

Long story short: Take the LSAT and wait the year.

Current Law Students / Re: curves? i dont get it.
« on: March 06, 2006, 10:25:29 AM »
WTF was that all about? Someone with a temp screen name makes a single post with the sole intention of starting a flame?

I do love, however, how the AA people make arguements that imply things they're against. "Blacks typically score 10 points lower than whites on the LSAT, even if their GPAs were identical." "There is a disproportionately high number of minorities in the bottom half of law school classes." Me thinks there may be a connection.

So assume the LSAT is biased, and therefore minorities need a boost to their score via AA. But apparently law school is biased too. I guess they need a GPA boost. Maybe half a point for anyone who was admitted under AA.

Finally, this didn't start off as an AA thread. It started off as a "why do we have curves", turned into a "a king at cooley is no king at harvard" rant, and got hijacked by a AA nut. Let's go back to picking on Cooley. It's more fun.

Current Law Students / Re: curves? i dont get it.
« on: March 04, 2006, 12:07:08 AM »
it's been pointed out before that gpa is still necessary to distinguish distance between ranks. #1 may have a 4.0 and #2 may have a 3.0. If all the data you had was 4.0 and 3.0 you would think the students were worlds apart. If all you had was #1 and #2 you would think the students were very close together. In a more realistic situation, students in the 50-33 range may be very tightly grouped while students >33 and <50 may be distant from 'the pack'.

this, of course, does not mean that the #1/4.0 at cooley would be a #1/4.0 at harvard. much of this arguement lies upon the fact that the professors who teach the classes typically grade the classes. student X may answer a K hypo at cooley and be awarded a perfect score because it was incredible (by cooley standards and the standards that the professor sees student to student / year to year). given the same hypo and the same answer, a harvard prof might grade the answer an A- or a B+ or even lower, because he expects to see answers of a higher quality.

to tread into the retarded analogy region again (nobody liked my midget thing... i shouldve included a yellow brick road): assume basketball shooting was a class. at cooley, most of the guards shoot 30%. There's a few that shoot 55 or 60%, and they are exceptional. Their coach thinks they're the sh*t and they get A's. at Harvard, everyone shoots at least 50%. most shoot 75-85%, and the best shoot 95%. the harvard coach wouldn't dream of giving an A to someone who shot under 90%. he routinely gives Cs to 45-65% shooters. if the top cooley shooters (55-60%) transferred to harvard, their A's become C's.

or imagine the AAA baseball batter that hits .550 with 40 HRs. he might be the best in the AAA league because he's batting against AAA pitching. if you bumped him to the majors would you expect him to hit as well? of course not.

to put it blunty: Cooley is the sticks. HLS is the bigs.

Indeed! Here it is an article on thje issue

... ok i'll admit i merely skimmed the article, but i didn't see anything about a correlation between LSAT scores and performance. If anything, it's complaining about being biased against woman/minorities (i'd never heard the woman arguement before). Was there a single sentence I missed or something? I'd expect any arguement that attempted to show the LSAT was not indicative of performance to be heavily supported with data. Such an arguement would require a lot more than a single sentence.

Thanks for the irrelevant link though. Good job. Keep it up.

Current Law Students / Re: curves? i dont get it.
« on: March 02, 2006, 07:55:03 AM »
If it still doesn't make sense, I think you were just not meant to get it.
I think we're talking to a cooley-quality kid here.
If the top 20% at Cooley transfers to Harvard he'd rank top 20% at Harvard as well. It's that simple!
If one of the tallest 20% of midgets transferred to the globetrotters he'd rank among the tallest 20% of globetrotters. ???


Current Law Students / Re: curves? i dont get it.
« on: March 02, 2006, 02:25:21 AM »
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eat *&^% and die.

you could probably score a 2.7 and a 'top' 75% at harvard and do better than cooley. point made.

Job Search / Re: swap online vault gold for online us news
« on: March 01, 2006, 05:17:11 PM »
trade a $15 year long subscription for a $45 six month long subscription.

i must admit i am shocked people haven't replied in droves.

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