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Mandatory mention that this is a bad idea. You won't listen. Carry on.

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Job Search / Re: Chances of Landing Summer Associate Gig
« on: July 06, 2011, 07:16:45 PM »
It's going to be REALLY hard. I'd focus on smaller markets to give yourself the best shot possible; there are a ton of schools in DC and a ton of people want DC, and I think most firms would rather take top 50% at GULC or some other DC school than random T4.

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You say the charge will "likely be dismissed." Is this through a diversion/deferred prosecution program? If so, you might have a better shot at getting past C&F than someone with a conviction for DUI.

I'd try to find an attorney who specializes in this stuff, though.

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How about Phoenix Law?  You could always try to transfer after 1L if you get good grades and still want to go to ASU.  Granted, that's a gamble, but worst-case, you can get that Phoenix Law degree and practice.

Do not do this.

I think MikePing is about right. You need to be in the 170s and the higher the better. If you check out lawschoolnumbers.com, there was apparently a non-URM admit with a 168 and a 2.76 GPA. I think that's cutting it pretty close, but that should at least give you a general idea of how you need to do. Good luck.


why not? I am in just about the same boat as bigs5068 and I am planning on going to Phoenix college before transferring.

Because you're banking on transferring (which is your first mistake) and you're going to shell out $50K a year to go to a law school that is blown out of the water by the other two schools in the state.

If you do ignore this advice (and you probably will), I STRONGLY recommend you sign up for every clinic you can, get to know whatever prosecutors/public defenders/whatever you can in the process, and pray a job opens up. I would specifically look for employers with high turnover (perhaps employees on contract?) to get your foot in the door.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: CUNY vs. GGU
« on: April 25, 2011, 04:32:48 PM »
Why are you using old data? I gave you the link. They have class of 2009 data. And while reporting isn't great, I'm looking at percentiles (since that tells you how well they report salaries relative to other schools). ASU is 31st percentile for salary reporting. BYU is 60th. Santa Clara is ~20th, and USF is 25th. Golden Gate is 18th (and gets worse if you count clerkships, obviously). CUNY is marginally better, but still not very good.

Also probably shouldn't talk about the bar, given the <70% pass rate from GGU.

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Salary? Billable hour requirement? Enjoy what you're doing? Prefer smaller firm or V10? How hard/easy was the switch?

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: CUNY vs. GGU
« on: April 24, 2011, 11:44:32 PM »
It is very unlikely you will get a job a BIG LAW job from GGU and I could not agree more about Big Law job prospects. However, you can get a job as an attorney from GGU and many graduates start out making between 50-80k and it will take time to pay off the debt, but if you want to be a lawyer GGU works fine.

Doubtful, really. Bar passage rate is <70% and they don't even bother reporting employment stats at graduation. Horrible percentile for reported salaries. There are far too many unemployed T14 grads who would love to work in San Francisco. The jobs just aren't there.

New LST data, btw: http://www.lawschooltransparency.com/2011/04/class-of-2009-u-s-news-data/

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Transferring / Re: HELP! T3 to University of Arizona ...worth it?
« on: April 17, 2011, 01:00:49 AM »
No school jumped up or down 20-30 spots, and, in any case, it doesn't matter much.


Nebraska from unranked tier 3 in 2010 to #84 in 2011, but not just any #84 rank a TWELEVE way tie for 84th place. I donít even know how you can have a twelve way tie for 84th place, but they managed to do it. 

LSU went from 75 into this twelve way tie for 84th place. So it is not quite clear if LSU went from 75 to the 96th or 84th school because there is a twelve way tie for the prestigious honor of 84th place.

Kansas went from 65 in 2010 to a simple 5 way tie for 79th place.

Catholic went from a 4 way tie for 94th place in 2010 up to a 5 way tie for 79th place in 2011.

LMU from 71 in 2010 to 54 in 2011.
 
Emory from #20 to a 4 way tie to #30 yes a five way tie for 30th place. Emory, Fordham, UNC, University of Washington. 

Where's the 20-30 ranking jump? That's what you said, yes?

I ask for a jump of the size you're claiming and you're unable to provide a single one.

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-Arizona probably will not impress in L.A. for example. UCLA, USC, are already there not to mention Pepperdine, LMU, Southwestern, also already in L.A.

So, because there are lots of law schools in L.A., Arizona is equivalent to random T3?

Again, you just don't know what you're talking about. As someone who strongly considered going to AZ, I did plenty of research: the top of the Arizona class can get into L.A. firms. No, they're not UCLA/USC (not even close, really); but they will do much, much better than some random T3.

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Transferring / Re: HELP! T3 to University of Arizona ...worth it?
« on: April 16, 2011, 07:04:19 PM »
It is pretty funny that someone who hasn't even taken the LSAT yet or attended one day of law school seems to know everything about the legal profession. Since she goes on the internet with literally no experience even less than me a second year law student her posts just attack people. Maybe while putting the LSAT off she figured out how the whole system works, but as a general rule of thumb don't listen to anybody that has not even taken the LSAT.

I honestly have no idea where you got the notion that I haven't taken the LSAT. I'm in law school, bro.

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However, if you want to live on the east coast after graduation then transferring to Arizona is probably not worth it. Arizona is a regional school more or less that could very easily become tier 2 by the time you graduate because the formula makes no sense. Look back at previous rankings and you will see that schools jump or down 20-30 spots any given year.

No school jumped up or down 20-30 spots, and, in any case, it doesn't matter much. It doesn't take USNWR to tell you that your job prospects are better coming out of Arizona than out of xyz T3.

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In my opinion when ELITE schools are not in the equation location and cost are the most important considerations.

This is at least a little silly. Say, for example, you wanted to work in Florida. It would be a huge mistake to go to Ave Maria on a full ride if you could get into Florida. Huge.


My main point is that, really, you don't know what you're talking about w/r/t job placement numbers. Arizona will, as I said, likely get you into Vegas, New Mexico, Phoenix/Tucson, and maybe Los Angeles/San Diego. You specifically said:

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but if you went to Arizona law school and showed up in New York, L.A, etc nobody would really care about it.

which is objectively false. In L.A., Arizona will go much farther than random T3 (and I'd guess the same is true in NYC, but I'm not going to say that w/ anywhere near the same amount of confidence).

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Transferring / Re: HELP! T3 to University of Arizona ...worth it?
« on: April 16, 2011, 06:56:07 PM »
It is pretty funny that someone who hasn't even taken the LSAT yet or attended one day of law school seems to know everything about the legal profession.

What are you talking about?

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