« on: July 24, 2011, 04:35:04 PM »
These programs are worthless. Don't waste your money.
This. Don't do this. Go get drunk or something instead.
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The ABA student community is a swell group of people to get to know, but honestly, who can deny that there is a surfeit of unemployed, deeply-indebted, ambitious young ABA graduates out there who don't know whether to go uphill or down bearing the chains of their coveted interstate law degree? How many ABA graduates would not be more than happy finding steady work in their home town alongside some blue collar, state-accredited attorney?
if you do this, please do not whine when you do not get a job
employers know that it's more difficult to get into an ABA school. you say there are tons of unemployed graduates of ABA accredited schools. this should mean something.
"dropping out may be a bit extreme,"
you are my new favorite poster
It's going to be REALLY hard. I'd focus on smaller markets to give yourself the best shot possible; there are a ton of schools in DC and a ton of people want DC, and I think most firms would rather take top 50% at GULC or some other DC school than random T4.
« on: July 06, 2011, 09:14:52 PM »
You say the charge will "likely be dismissed." Is this through a diversion/deferred prosecution program? If so, you might have a better shot at getting past C&F than someone with a conviction for DUI.
I'd try to find an attorney who specializes in this stuff, though.
« on: June 27, 2011, 03:12:21 AM »
How about Phoenix Law? You could always try to transfer after 1L if you get good grades and still want to go to ASU. Granted, that's a gamble, but worst-case, you can get that Phoenix Law degree and practice.
Because you're banking on transferring (which is your first mistake) and you're going to shell out $50K a year to go to a law school that is blown out of the water by the other two schools in the state.
If you do ignore this advice (and you probably will), I STRONGLY recommend you sign up for every clinic you can, get to know whatever prosecutors/public defenders/whatever you can in the process, and pray a job opens up. I would specifically look for employers with high turnover (perhaps employees on contract?) to get your foot in the door.
Why are you using old data? I gave you the link. They have class of 2009 data. And while reporting isn't great, I'm looking at percentiles (since that tells you how well they report salaries relative to other schools). ASU is 31st percentile for salary reporting. BYU is 60th. Santa Clara is ~20th, and USF is 25th. Golden Gate is 18th (and gets worse if you count clerkships, obviously). CUNY is marginally better, but still not very good.
Also probably shouldn't talk about the bar, given the <70% pass rate from GGU.
It is very unlikely you will get a job a BIG LAW job from GGU and I could not agree more about Big Law job prospects. However, you can get a job as an attorney from GGU and many graduates start out making between 50-80k and it will take time to pay off the debt, but if you want to be a lawyer GGU works fine.
Doubtful, really. Bar passage rate is <70% and they don't even bother reporting employment stats at graduation. Horrible percentile for reported salaries. There are far too many unemployed T14 grads who would love to work in San Francisco. The jobs just aren't there.
New LST data, btw: http://www.lawschooltransparency.com/2011/04/class-of-2009-u-s-news-data/