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« on: May 25, 2012, 10:53:57 AM »
In response to the entertainment industry comment I think the analogy does apply. The reality is no easy career path exists. Ask a doctor, nurse, pilot, lawyer, CEO, professional athlete, firefighter, police officer, etc how competitive it was for them to get where they are. I imagine all of them will say it was very difficult and all of them started at the bottom and instead of complaining about how unfair everything was worked to succeed. This is proven by Cher's story 28k a year is nothing, but you have to build experience. When I started out I was in a similar position doing mind numbing doc review, but I kept getting more experience, meeting people, and not giving up. It was not fun starting out and honestly the first two years out were terrible, but I paid my dues and really enjoy my career now. In almost every career you have to pay your dues that is simply the way the world works.
To elaborate on Chers point the debt is expensive, but again look outside the legal profession and you will see degrees in other professions are just as expensive. I just googled NYU tuition and the school of social work popped up. NYU is 41k per year for a social work degree. That is very expensive and if you go to nursing school, medical school, social work school, a police academy, etc they are all expensive. In the end no matter what educational/career path you choose it will be expensive, time consuming, and there will be no guarantee of a job at the end of it. You are also going to have to pay your dues in any profession.
Way to completely misrepresent the situation. Not a single one of the professions you listed- with the exception of possibly Doctor or Nurse- requires as a prerequisite
a graduate degree that, at sticker, can cost upwards of a quarter million dollars. Professional Athlete? Seriously? Police Academy?
You think that costs $40k / year for tuition for three years? Honestly, use common sense.
« on: May 25, 2012, 10:41:42 AM »
Neither. These schools are both absolute garbage. Don't go without a full ride.
« on: May 25, 2012, 10:40:56 AM »
I was hoping to get some idea on what people think of my options. I have a full ride to Hofstra law with the normal stips and $28,000 to Brooklyn Law with a top 80% stip. I am also accepted at Fordham for the evening program with no money so I'd have to work during the day. Does anybody have any thoughts? Thanks
Try to get more money out of Brooklyn, and know that unless you kill it you'll be working NYC small law for your entire career. Fordham isn't worth sticker in this economy. Hofstra isn't worth your time, even with a full ride.
« on: May 25, 2012, 10:39:25 AM »
PLEASE...don't respond with 'retake LSAT', 'these schools suck', or 'wait to go to a better school'. Although these statements have sediments of truth in them, I don't really want to hear it right now. I want to go to law school this year (Southwestern or Chapman), but am really hoping that Chapman gives me good news so I can save on rent.
So I'm not allowed to comment on how those schools will suck you into an endless debtors prison? Or about how you're about to make a life ruining decision just because you want to stick your head in the sand?
Dont' worry, I won't say 'nuthin.
« on: May 24, 2012, 11:06:57 AM »
This conversation about how brutal the legal market is reminds me a lot of what I heard before pursuing a career in the entertainment industry. As hard as it is, the legal field is not more competitive than entertainment. From my experience, if you cultivate your talents, work hard and know the right people, you will most likely be marketable. Turn that frown upside down and keep hustling
Too bad the entertainment industry has nothing to do with the legal industry. You might be able to make a comparison if you ignore the fact that a law degree puts you potentially a quarter million dollars in debt whereas the entertainment industry doesn't.
« on: May 23, 2012, 03:36:03 PM »
OP. save yourself and your financial future and avoid that T4 at all costs. If you're going for free and you feel like working in the immediate area, fine, go ahead. But otherwise, don't even think about taking out big loans to finance it. You say you don't want to end up in debt with no job, yet if you take out loans to attend a T4, that's exactly what is going to happen. You say you read about how terrible the market is everywhere; well, these aren't a few disgruntled graduates spouting off. This is a widespread phenomenon. This happens to a lot of people, and it can happen to you just as easily.
Do your research and save yourself now, while you still can.
« on: May 23, 2012, 03:27:43 PM »
These are both awful schools that you shouldn't be considering for even one second if you don't have a full ride.
« on: May 23, 2012, 03:06:30 PM »
First you put down 2/3s of the population and insinuate anyone who got less than a 170 LSAT is "handicapped".
Now you wish to offer them your protection to make things "equal".
Are you actually basing this on
Mien Kompf? Mein Kampf Seriously?
Also, you might want to read the book before you ascribe somebody's philosophy as analogous to it.
« on: May 23, 2012, 03:03:03 PM »
If you got in at UMN, you should get $$$$ from 'Dozo. Don't go there unless you can go for pretty close to free.
« on: May 23, 2012, 02:59:53 PM »
Do you want Biglaw? If so, it's no question, go T14. Otherwise, there's a case to be made for Fordham, although you'll be hard pressed to get serious $$$ from them (you should not be considering 'Dozo at all with your numbers). With your stats I would think you could get money somewhere in the lesser T14: I have almost identical numbers and got money from Cornell and Duke.
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