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Transferring / Re: Touro to...some other place in NY
« on: May 14, 2011, 06:26:57 PM »
I believe the recruiting/oci data website that was being mentioned is the NALP site. its

Lists OCI, firm profiles, etc.

I think its fair to say that any field you go into now is going to require you to be hard working, and dedicated to what you are doing.

I live in Florida, and applied/toured some FL law school last year. Barry, has a fair reputation but is a rather bare bones school - theres nothing fancy, but it gets the job done.  Ave Maria, I would be very conscious of their religious affiliation and views. Barry is also Catholic but has it has minimal influence on the law school. At Ave Maria, the whole town and law school are influenced by these shared values, and I'd imagine theres a required class on Catholic ethics or something similar.

Barry would be a better choice, unless you have a strong Catholic faith that would connect you better with Ave.

I believe thats exactly the argument. I agree that someone with a 2.9 and 146 would probably have a difficult time- also if those are accurate representations of that persons ability (maybe they were in the military, worked, whatever).

From my understanding, Cooley does accept people with low numbers.... ** with the understanding that they are giving you a chance to prove yourself amidst the competition.
- LSAC says about 20% attrition after 1L, and its right down the middle 10% transfer and 10% fail out.

I do believe this reflects at least an average quality graduate in the end, if you can make it through the cuts and competition for the first year or two then it should be alright. I've talked to Florida Cooley alumni and this is what they have reiterated the same message.

The negatives of Cooley are about the rankings (that should be gone), low admissions standards, and the attrition for the first year or two. But in the end, I think the quality of a graduate after going through Cooley's process isn't what is in question.

St Thomas is in the ghetto! Like really.. there is a gated entry with security and a fence around the whole campus, and it looks like crap. With tuition like that... really? It sounds ok, and looks ok online, but the location... eh.

Id say barry given it has a solid hold on the orlando area, and its cheaper to live in orlando.


I just took the LSAT yesterday.

I am estimating a score in the 130's. It was a complete disaster.

I actually have a medical disorder called IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome), and it started acting up halfway through the test  :D

Seriously??? + 130s LSAT... good luck buddy lol

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: New England Law Boston?
« on: February 01, 2011, 08:53:07 PM »
I don't think I'd call New England a small law school really. LSAC records 400 matriculating, I'd estimate more mid-sized. And, they seem to have a full range of opportunities in such a major city. The only thing to worry about would be cost and competition I would imagine..

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Is Cooley Law School That Bad?
« on: January 31, 2011, 10:46:21 AM »
also a note on quality of applicants...

its increasingly more difficult to get admitted to law school than in past years and decades. So, given the competition of the current time wouldn't that suggest that current students are of a higher caliber? Even Cooley raises the LSAT minimum a point every year or two.. so the alumni from a decade ago are examples of the quality that I would severely question- that could be someone that had a 130s score! 

 I completely agree that taking on 150k plus on a lower tiered school is a HUGE risk - one that I will not be taking. One way that this problem is being addressed is through the extended repayment plans and income based repayment on federal loans. Most law grads would be able to extend payment for 25-30 years, and in some public service fields they can be forgiven after 10 years.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Is Cooley Law School That Bad?
« on: January 31, 2011, 08:31:15 AM »


Some people here are in serious denial.  This board is packed with T3 and T4 students.  They all huddle together and congratulate each other like it's some sort of accomplishment and they've all achieved greatness.  Well, I've got news for you:  It's not a an accomplishment, it should not be celebrated, and a rude awakening awaits most of you after the bar.

The T3 & T4s congratulate, and the T1's trash the rest.. it's whatever. The funniest yet are the comments trashing people before they've even taken the LSAT or been accepted anywhere.

I would agree, the general range of Cooley students would be below average in #s. However, I suppose I'm not advocating the whole school. I'm just saying it can work, and its going to work for my situation.

And lastly, its actually $1100 per credit hour. No idea where you found 900 at.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Is Cooley Law School That Bad?
« on: January 30, 2011, 05:10:29 PM »
The real rub is that a Cooley education is just as expensive as any T14.

Just to keep the "facts" going here, this is not a fact. The majority of students at Cooley go part time. Part time tuition at Cooley ranges from 13k -26k per year assuming there is no scholarship - and an average LSAT taker would easily attain a partial scholarship.

Someone going to Cooley part time on scholarship could be getting a very good tuition rate comparable to an instate residency at a public law school. In a poor economy, maybe a better choice than many t4's.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Tampa Bay LSAT Study Group
« on: January 30, 2011, 02:18:02 PM »
Hey, I would be interested in that. I'm taking the June 2011 Lsat probably at FL Southern.  I'll be doing it to raise my scholarship not for applying to other places, but if you'd like to PM I'd be up for doing something on weekends.

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