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Law School Admissions / Re: Wow, I made the most stupid mistake-HELP
« on: February 09, 2006, 03:25:05 PM »
The best advice I can give you is to sit through the test and immediately cancel the score. You are definately out the money, but at least this way you will gain some test experience and the score won't count. Sorry to hear about the mishap though and I hope things work out as best they can.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Help a guy out
« on: January 28, 2006, 11:49:57 PM »
Ok, so I am about to crack.  I've sent off 24 applications, most of which I have zero chance.  This is mainly due to my so-so LSAT (156) and my bad GPA (2.58).  I was diagnosed with dyslexia during my freshman year and turned my grades around but I just couldn't do that much.  I went on after undergrad and did my MS and got a 3.83.  I've been working for the last five years in management for the world's top hotel company.  I submitted an addendum regarding my GPA and the prof who diagnosed and helped me also sent a letter regarding my situation.

So that brings me to the point where I need y'all's help.  I feel that out of all my apps the one I have the best chance that would lead to the best results would be Drexel.  I know that many on this board have no need for a brand new program with no alumi network but in my search it may just be the thing. 

I know that I went complete on 1-14 and that they open apps on Wed so I should be hearing soon.  I am just hoping for nothing or do I have a shot. ??? ??? ???

First of all, congratulations on turning your grades around and doing so well in getting your MS. My recommendation for you would be to consider retaking the LSAT now that you have learned to work with your dyslexia. Lots of people with a UGPA like yours will get into a top 100 school this year and most of them won't have your outstanding track record in school at the graduate level. If you could bring that LSAT up to 160 or more I doubt you would have to worry about settling for a school you are worried about attending.

That being said, I don't think there is anything particularly wrong with Drexel. It seems like they are well on their way to approval and I couldn't see them not at least getting provisional accreditation which would get their entering class an accredited degree. Beyond that, if you want to practice locally then even if for some reason they couldn't even get provisionally accredited after 3 years then you should still be okay. The real question is are you really interested in attending Drexel or are you just settling out of fear of rejection. If its the latter definately don't go, retake the LSAT, and apply next year starting in early decision season. If its the former than more power to you and I'm sure you'll get accepted and have a great time as a member of Drexel's founding class.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: $$$ or Prestige
« on: January 24, 2006, 12:22:04 PM »
No one can really answer this question unless you give us some insight into who you are and what you want out of a legal education. Are you single or a family man? What type of law do you want to practice? Where do you want to practice? How much college debt have you acquired to date? These are important questions in determining where you want to go. BC is much more prestigious and it'll be easier to make more money as a graduate from its program. But that all depends on where you practice and what kind of law you work in. Another key question I think isn't getting addressed is what the prestige value of going to Val and being in the top 10% of your class is versus going to Boston and having much tougher competition for the higher positions.

If the LSAT is really a questionable indicator of law school performance why do most law schools favor it above all other factors? I hate to resort to the authoritative argument, but I give these schools (some of which have been doing this for over a century) some credit that they know what makes a good prospect and what doesn't. Honestly, if you are going to suggest that the LSAT means so little then this is something you're gonna need to account for.


So, to answer your question, people go to non-ABA schools because they want to be lawyers, and have realized what you have yet to grasp--reputation is one thing, but drive and ability overpowers repuation 9 days of the week.

Ouch, okay. Well, like my first post said I thought if you're school wasn't accreditted you couldn't take the bar and therefore couldn't become a practicing lawyer. Apparently, you can take the bar in your own state and maybe in other states. My question wasn't meant to be derogatory towards the schools or the people that go to them, it just didn't make sense to me from my understanding of how the bar worked (which was mistaken). However, while I do agree that drive and ability are what it boils down to for success in life I don't think you can discount the pull that reputation has in where you can work and what you can do, especially in law. HYS grads can get the internships and the jobs without being the best in their class while tier 3s and 4s need to be in the top 10% to do a lot of the same. I can only imagine its even harder for non accreditted schools even though their cirriculum and instructors might be better than many of the 3s and 4s.

Law School Admissions / Re: What's your undergrad school's average LSAT?
« on: January 23, 2006, 01:40:28 PM »

go big red, baby!

Goooo Biiig Reeed! GO BIG RED!

Law School Admissions / Re: Are all late applicants screwed ?
« on: January 23, 2006, 01:36:24 PM »
Plus I'll bet its a safe assumption that LSN has more users every year so they'll be more reported and more accepted according to its data with every passing year. Most importantly don't let it get you down and if you really want to go their apply despite it all. Worst case they say no and you can apply to go their next year.

Choosing the Right Law School / Why attend a non accredited law school?
« on: January 23, 2006, 01:54:36 AM »
I mean, honestly, people do it and I've read posts here and elsewhere about people who apply/attend/have graduated from these schools. What is the point of going to one of these schools if you want to practice or teach law? Maybe I don't get how this works, but its my understanding that if you don't have a law degree from an accredited school then you won't be allowed to take the bar or practice. Am I wrong or am I just missing some piece that would explain why people spend their time and money at these places?

My favorites:
4 Reprimands + $10 Fine: Horseplay, improper personal contact (anything beyond hand-holding), music code violation, & unauthorized borrowing

6 Reprimands + $25 Fine: Attendance at a dance & entering entryway of opposite sex on campus or allowing the same

12 Reprimands + $50 Fine: Attendance at a dance, possession or viewing of, an "R," "NC-17" or "X"-rated movie, entering the residence hallway of the opposite sex or allowing the same (again?), participation in an unauthorized petition or demonstration, possession and/or viewing of sexually explicit material, & students of the opposite sex visiting alone at an off-campus residence

18 Reprimands + $250 Fine + 18 hours Disciplinary Community Service: Association with those consuming alcohol, entering a residence hall apartment or quad of the opposite sex or allowing the same, & entering bedroom of the opposite sex on/off campus or allowing the same

30 Reprimands + $500 Fine + 30 hours Disciplinary Community Service + possible Administrative Withdrawal: Abortion, failure of three Christian/Community Services without reconciliation, immorality, involvement with witchcraft, sťances or other occultic activities, & spending the night with a person of the opposite sex.

Law School Admissions / Re: What's your undergrad school's average LSAT?
« on: January 23, 2006, 01:30:28 AM »
Nebraska - Lincoln

avg: 153
me: 170

pwned =P

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