« on: February 23, 2006, 12:36:58 PM »
QuoteI didn't say there were no non-URM's who got below the 25th percentile. I said there were very few who got TEN POINTS below like you posited.
I'm sure if I made an argument that as many whites got in with 10 points below the median as blacks (which is likely to be true, just because of the numbers of Non-URMs at elite schools who score below the median) you'd find another reason to defend the performance of white students. For your theory to be true, every black people at elite schools would have to score 10 points below the median and every white student who scored belong the 25 percent median had LSAT scores exactly at the 25 percent median. I say that's statisically impossible because then the 25 percent median would be lower than published.
You are slightly misunderstanding his argument. For it to be true every black person at elite schools would not have to have scores 10 points below the median. First of all, when you say bottom 25% you are essentially counting it as 25%. In fact, 10 points below the median is well below the 25% line anywhere. It would most likely be bottom 5%. Now, all Googler is trying to say is that a URM with a score 10 or more points below the median is more likely to get in than a Caucasian or Asian American with the same scores. At that point one ought to give credit where credit is due and the URM should admit that was why they got accepted. Also, the inverse "getting in because of being an overrepresented majority" argument floating around here is flawed. It is the equivalent of a 180/2.5 splitter saying he got accepted to NYU because of his GPA. Googler's point is valid as long as we are a) only looking at LSAT scores and URM status and b) maintain that the two are not related. The only valid argument against his, in the thread, is that URMs consistantly outperform their LSAT scores once in law school and therefore LSAT scores should not be weighted as heavily for them in admissions decisions. While I have never seen any studies on this, I can say that if it is true then there is a legitimate and merit-based reason why URMs shouldn't have to "fess up" to getting into law schools because of their status.