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Law School Admissions / Re: Worst Admissions Staff in T14
« on: May 24, 2006, 07:45:03 AM »
Copied and pasted from another post.  My own fault but still made me mad.  >:(

On May 8th, I dropped off my deposit in D.C.  On May 9th, I accepted an offer from UVA and emailed Georgetown to withdraw and asked them politely not to cash my check.  I did not put a "stop payment" on the check because after researching the subject on this board, there were some responses that scared me into not doing it and that suggested that a polite email asking them not to cash the check was the better option.  I never got a response from Georgetown, and they didn't cash my check, so I thought that it was all cool.  So, late last night, I check the email and see a response to my withdrawal that says "Sorry, the deposit is non-refundable" and they cash the check today.  Now, the fact that the deposit was non-refundable is true, and I was willing to accept that they might very well cash the check anyway.  However, needless to say I am a little irritated that they waited until two weeks after I had withdrawn to even present my check to the bank.  And considering that it came through on the same day as a bunch of other payments and only a few days after the other deposit check, it is hurting me financially and I'm just mad at the no response for two weeks and then "oh, we'll cash it anyway" crap.  Oh well, considering that the reason that I didn't put a stop payment on it in the first place was because of the fact that I did in fact choose to pay them a deposit and thought that it would be unethical to stop payment on a check that I had written, there isn't anything that I can do about it anyway.  Meh.

That is so outrageous. Id be beyond fuming. They basically took money from you for no reason. Thats just awful.

My deposit to Cornell arrived at their office the same day I got into Penn, so I called and they said "We have it in our hands, were tearing it up right now, best of luck" which I thought was really nice of them. I asked if I should put a stop on it anyway and they said it couldnt hurt.

im kinda surprised cornell admissions has gotten such a bad rap- aside from their status checker which isnt worth sh*t, they were nothing but awesome with me.

Law School Admissions / Re: Call from Harvard
« on: May 23, 2006, 09:40:30 PM »
Harvard 1L told me today that theres a rumor going around that the HLS admissions office overadmitted the high LSATs and are trying to up their GPA- as it stands, their GPA range is set to fall which will obviously hurt their rankings war efforts.

i dont know if thats true but everyone getting in (and they are taking ALOT this late in the game) have high GPAs- and from my (and others) experience at Penn, it seems they too, in turn, are grabbing up the high GPA kids that Harvard might be stealing.

This is probably the best thing that could ever happen to someone with my numbers so im thrilled but i think its really interesting to watch happen.


Law School Admissions / Re: Worst Admissions Staff in T14
« on: May 23, 2006, 01:23:38 PM »
I had a terrible experience with Georgetown.  Some lady screwed up with my application, and it never got processed.  When I complained several months later, I think she tried to cover her ass by simply putting it into the reject bin. 

I think that's what happened because Chiatsu had me as a 95% admit at G-town, and I've been accepted to H, S, and B. 

Oh i forgot about them- i had the same thing. I was more like a 75% on Chiashu, but they also completely lost my application, and then got mad at me for pointing out. I think I would have been waitlisted and then ignored had it all gone smoothly- it all worked for me in the end though, thankfully.

but yeah NYU and Gtown. Come on. Get your act together.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: The Official "I'm Going to Penn!" Thread
« on: May 23, 2006, 12:46:38 PM »
Yeah, i was just saying if for some reason Penn isnt forthcoming with the Staffords, that would suck given how standard that is.

I am one poor shmuck, but my parents arent. Which sucks because theyre not contributing a dime- they paid for undergrad mightily, despite some merit $$ from NYU, and now even though I assured them NO financial contributions would be necessary, they are going to have to cosign loads of loans. Cest la vie of law school i guess. But it is more fun getting aid from schools that dont take your parents into account.

and thanks- i know im qualified, im not insecure/doubtful about that, and i have NO problem taking the Harvard 1L's seats at all. I just lost a good year at the end of my life in the past 2 months agonizing over Cornell v $$$ at other schools. so this feels gooood.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: The Official "I'm Going to Penn!" Thread
« on: May 23, 2006, 12:14:31 PM »
Yeah, property, torts, contracts and civpro. Plus the legal writing workshop thingie. its a heavy heavy load- alot of schools break those up and spread it out.

I also can not WAIT for Criminal and Constitutional Law though- literally cant wait, not to mention the electives, so for me, its allll about the spring semester and just surviving the fall.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: The Official "I'm Going to Penn!" Thread
« on: May 23, 2006, 11:43:28 AM »
I can not tell you how utterly thrilled and delighted i am to be posting here now. THRILLED.

If anyone cares, I was told yesterday by Admissions that they dropped their acceptance rate significantly this year- and are now looking to readjust it to reflect such conservative offers. I thought Penn was already at 12% so I cant imagine how much lower it could go, but i am SOOOOO thrilled that this tiny readjustment included me.

Now, a few things.
I think the reason I am here is because Harvard took 22 people off their waitlist last week, which opened up spots in the rest of the T14. Specifically it appears that they took lots of high GPAs, so I think this created a market for high GPA students. I am one, and it got them to overlook my 167. (I also feel like I am replacing LaurenRae, another NYU student with an identical GPA as mine and similar LSAT who is on her way to Harv as we speak...)

Second, financial aid. I got full stafford from Cornell and GW. Do we think Penn will do the same? I know I wont get a dime of need grants or merit grants- but I do like those federal loan rates.

Third- my cousin and a friend of mine (a PhD in history/rising 1L repsectively) have a four bedroom house for ridiculously low rent on St Marks Place or Square or something like that. I cant figure out how long a walk that is to the law school- anyone know where that is? Do i want in?

Finally I just want to say how F*cking excited I am for the fall- Penn and Yale were the two schools I looked at in the fall and said "this is where i wanna be." I thought Id get into Penn to begin with, and was fully expecting my Yale rejection. So the Penn waitlist (and subsequent NYU rejection- another surprise) threw me for a loop. I was JUST getting excited for Cornell when Renee Post called me.

I can not friggin WAIT. Even though the fall semester promises to be the most trying, bad seemster of my life (ConLaw and CrimLaw and Intl Law are my interests- torts and contracts are going to be killer). Im not sure why Penn stacks up the workload like that- Cornell, for example, splits CivPro and Property into two semesters, and peppers some random seminars/ConLaw stuff in each one. Just an odd choice.

9am class 5 days a week? brutal after 4 years of NYU classless Fridays. but its a brutality i am SOOOO excited to endure.

congrats to everyone for their earlier successes and WAHOOOOO Penn


Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Penn Waitlist
« on: May 23, 2006, 10:47:38 AM »
  I'm almost certain I'll be at Penn in the fall.

Almost certain? She made me swear up and down. Which I gladly did.

Are you thinking about Vandy over Penn? And ddi you figure out how finaid works- i know I wont get any merit aid from them, but when do i hear about $?

now i can finally post here.


I have no idea what it says. But i really liked the way
looked when I typed it out to someone on AIM last night. so thats hot.

i absolutely wasnt "hating." at all. everyone has their strenghts- obviously i have alot of respect for a 173.

but do i think a 2.6 GPA (without an explanation like "i was stoned fresh year" or "i lost a close friend and got Ds one semester") is indicative of difficulty in doing well in law school? Sure. I think most law schools dont care about GPA- if you have a 3.5 or above they assume you can handle the work, keep on top of thigns, and the rst is LSAT and soft factors. But a 2.6 is quite low, and if he performs in that way at all during law school he will lose whatever scholarship money they are giving him.

i could be wrong but i think a 155/3.9 is more likely to do well (ie get decent grades in law school) then a 175/2.7

Cardozo clearly wants you to boost their LSAT score, and I think Cardozo is most definitely the better school, without a doubt.

But I think a 2.6 UG means it might be hard to maintain the B+ average Cardozo usually demands for their scholarships, and it might hurt to suddenly be at Cardozo paying full tuition. Id go with Rutgers- they place well if you maintain a good GPA


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