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fine, if you want to go with the terminal degree view that even though all PHD=doctor not all doctor=phd.

That being said, it is a doctor degree(Jurious Doctor) so viewing it that way instead, why do you think that America makes us get a DOCTOR degree when other nations don't?

A JD is very much NOT a PhD.  The rough legal equivalent of a PhD  is an SJD.  All the SJD's I know personally were foreign and needed it for whatever they wanted to do (usually teach law).

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Law School Applications / Re: 2.7 undergrad GPA 3.4 MS and 3.7 PhD LSAT 142
« on: December 23, 2010, 10:53:10 AM »
Then every IP coursebook in every JD program in the nation lies, or you misunderstand, which do you find more plausable?

what do you mean "dont bother with" that would make them guilty of the unauthorised practice of law, a criminal offense. Being a licensed attorney does not qualify you to do IP work without the patent bar also.

No, you're confused.
IP litigation does NOT require you to pass the patent bar.  IP prosecution does.
There are many subsets of IP: trademark, patent, copyright, trade secret, etc.  None of them require you to take the patent bar to litigate.  Patent litigation entails enforcement of a patent.  Patent litigation can take place in any federal court, and anyone who is admitted to practice in any state may litigate patent matters.  Prosecution generally entails the creation and maintenance of a patent before the USPTO.  Practicing before the USPTO requires passage of the patent bar.

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Law School Applications / Re: OPINIONS PLEASE?
« on: December 23, 2010, 10:51:22 AM »
"since I'm not an applicant" says the person who isnt even an applicant for the JD yet.(wow!)

This may blow your mind princess, but they give LLM classes in the same halls they give the JD classes and many of my fellow students that I have class with are dual enrolled. That means that the school tells us how to apply and what is required to do so. You don't even need a full JD to be in it, let alone apply and your telling me how LEGAL work has SOME value on a resume for it still means jack for nonlegal work. How do I know this? Reread untill you get it. Dumbass.

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L.L.M. Board / Re: How selective are LLM programs for US students?
« on: December 23, 2010, 10:46:52 AM »
If someone just wants to defer student loans(even get some more money if needed for rent too) without going into much debt while still getting to put LLM next to their name on their resumes and cards, they should know that Kaplan-Concord is now regionally accredited. Most online lawschools are only national or state, but regional gets the same treatment with loans as you would at harvard.

People can cry that its given by a school who's JD is only reconised by one state, but its a friggin' LLM.

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Law School Applications / Re: 2010-2011 Application Cycle
« on: December 23, 2010, 10:43:04 AM »
If you worked as a paralegal, then I take it back. That being said most people here keep being confused about the practice of law and the study of law. When someone points it out, they AGAIN go back to trying to explain the PRACTICE, thats like me saying dude there are no sharks in the pool, and someone AGAIN trying to prove that sharks lives in the ocean. There is an insane difference.

As for serving for the OP, STFU, if I want to here a civie cry I'll poke one with a fork. Once again, someone who only THINKS they know on a subject making a post, not in lawschool, never killed a man, but you watch a lot of tv and know people who did, awsome, just plain awsome.

(read below to see the copy&paste cookiecutter kneejerk responce of a neverdid)

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Law School Applications / Re: 2010-2011 Application Cycle
« on: December 23, 2010, 01:28:37 AM »
Wow, me the guy who actually went to lawschool without flunking out? Gotta tell you, A-ok with being in that minority group there princess. ::)

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L.L.M. Board / Re: How selective are LLM programs for US students?
« on: December 23, 2010, 12:34:47 AM »
Yeah but the JD is to get a license, there is a difference.

It's hard to believe that anyone would pick lawschool because they had no other option in life. If you want to live off student loans, why not just get an MBA and stay drunk and masterbait all day like B-school dumbs are good at?

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Law School Applications / Re: OPINIONS PLEASE?
« on: December 23, 2010, 12:32:48 AM »
How do you figure that working as a grease monkey gives someone a heads up in a lawschool application over someone who worked(albeit unpaid) in a lawoffice?

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Law School Applications / Re: 2010-2011 Application Cycle
« on: December 23, 2010, 12:30:39 AM »
Did someone here actually say "but my daddy...." Holy F'n hell. Look littlegirl stop watching daddy and ask him not what he did today but what he did in (real hard here) LAWSCHOOL! Then come back and post what his outdated opinions on it were.

You fetus's remind me of all the idiot civilians when I got back to the states, "you couldnt of been in the service, my grandad was in the service and he told me people had to show respect and your a male private part....." Welcome back to reality people. Just because a bunch of undergrads tell eachother that day is night (and say "but my daddy") dosn't make it so. 

"but my daddy......." :'(

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Law School Applications / Re: 2.7 undergrad GPA 3.4 MS and 3.7 PhD LSAT 142
« on: December 23, 2010, 12:25:13 AM »
what do you mean "dont bother with" that would make them guilty of the unauthorised practice of law, a criminal offense. Being a licensed attorney does not qualify you to do IP work without the patent bar also.

Other than that, good advise.

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Yes, I checked out the link, thank you. I assume that most law students use either Kaplan or Barbri; I am curious if there was a bar prep that was preferred by the majority of law students. Some prep courses seemed like smoke and mirrors, and I would rather not shell out 500-3000 for a bogus course. Taking the bar without going to law school will be a challenge; I want all the resources I can get.

Patent bar prep should not cost anywhere near $3,000.  Most folks merely order self-study books and knock it out.  It's nothing like most regular bar exams and even many IP litigators never bother with the patent bar or take it during 1L summer while in law school and do just fine.

If you are willing to wait and retake the LSAT and work as a patent agent for a while, have you considered applying to the Patent and Trademark Office (PTO) in DC?  You would be well qualified and would be paid to train as a patent examiner.  If you enjoy it, you can apply to school part time in the DC area, get tuition reimbursement and have a nice patent law related entry on your resume.  (Many PTO examiners go this route.)  They are always looking for people and you can apply online if you're serious about it.  The money is okay too, though it may take a bit to get going depending on the GS-level at which you enter.  A PhD should give you a bump even at entry-level.

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