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this is exactly why im a fan of the "go to the best school you can get into"

The best law school you can get into based on usnwr rankings? or best law school based on your personal perrogative and what constitutes your personal defination of excellence and success?

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still havent heard anything regarding my status.... been complete since december

im visiting usd next wknd from th east coast.. so id love to visit loyola too if they just let me know!!

i would inform lmu that you're in the state and would love ot visit the campus. then ask for some type of tour and if you could talk to an admissions consouler or asst dean of student affairs or what have you. its much harder for them to reject a face that they know.

are you admitted to usd? its an alright campus; nothing to hate, but nothing to fall in love with.

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You are so not alone!  I am WL at Davis and USF, and STILL have not heard from Hatsings.  What is wrong with Hasting?!  My god they are killing me.  My only acceptance so far is to GGU (even w/ 20k per yr scholarship, I am hesitant to accept).  I really do not know what to do.  Hang in there pinky!  If you come SF, I'll buy a beer and we can curse the LSAT and this whole damn stressful process together.

Thanks Holly! I just wasn't sure whether to give up on getting into my pending/WL schools because I've been waiting forever! Sometimes it seems hopeless...  :-[ But its good to see there is a bunch of us in the same position & hopefully some of these schools will be taking us off their WLs soon...

Pinky - what schools are you waiting on?  We are in San Diego right now waiting to hear if we are approved for a house we want.... waiting sucks no matter what its for

I STILL haven't heard back from Loyola & I'm also hoping, by some miracle, I get off the USD WL...

heres some food for thought. a classmate of mine from highschool applied to usd with a 159, 3.7 from ucsd. he got waitlisted in mid april. he immeadiately sent his latest transcript, a letter of continued interest and one additional LOR. he recently (about a week ago) received a letter saying he has been extended an offer for the fall 06 FT and taken off the waitlist. i think persistence and a whole lot of luck has a lot to do with this wl thing.

that being said i am on the waitlist at both loyola and uc davis. given the chance to go to either one of these over usd (which is where im pretty sure i'll be going) i'd jump on it in a heartbeat.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: USD info/questions
« on: May 10, 2006, 11:15:00 PM »

After those top 4, I think that USD should at or above the levels of Davis, Hastings and Loyola.


the uc name carries a lot of name cache that travels much better than lmu and usd.theres another thread comparing davis to usd. it basically boils down to name recognition in their respective markets.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UC Davis v. USD
« on: May 08, 2006, 02:41:03 PM »
to add some fuel to the fire, i've just been waitlisted at davis.

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waitlisted also.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UC Davis v. USD
« on: May 08, 2006, 01:22:22 PM »
Tell us oh wise USD 1L because your posts are very entertaining.

And of course I'm a 0L...isn't this site designed for it? Don't you have finals next week?   

dont fight it, just roll with it, bc you've been owned. if you fight it, we just keep ragging on your shame, ignore it, and it will go away.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UC Davis v. USD
« on: May 08, 2006, 10:25:35 AM »
]But numbers don't lie.  USD's employment rate at graduation is 65.8% while UC Davis has a 81.3 percentage. 

I know you're a 0L, so you have no idea how the schools actually generate those employment numbers; would you like me to tell you, or is it moot because they do not lie?  Do you think the law school job elf follows graduates around to see who's naughty and nice??  Get real.

hahahaha.....sighhhh, but seriously, good answer.

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USD without thinking, assuming you care about jobs.

At USD, you can (with effort) get a job on the east coast, interview on campus at all of the top SD/OC firms (plus a lot of LA firms mixed in).  At Cal Western, if you're in the top 10% you're assured of nothing.  Top 10% at USD writes its own ticket locally, and can move you nationally (again with work).

Also, there's a good chance that USD, over the next 20 or so years, will become a top 30 school.  (It's faculty is already in the top 25)  It's in a very desirable location, it's the major player in a huge area (Mexico border to UCLA), etc.  What is holding it down is student rankings which are based on, as you mentioned, a poor career services.  The new dean has fired everyone in career services, and the new staff will be complete this summer.  Whether or not this changes anything remains to be seen, but at least it's movement and recognition of the problem.

Since I see you are currently at USD, are you saying that Cal Western grads haven't got a chance in the SD market?  Since that's where I'm going next year I find that really disappointing...

well thats not true. i dont see thousands of destitute cal west and tjsl grads on the streets.

Anything to back this up?  (Seriously)

are you refering to my statement that cal west and tjsl grads dont do that bad bc i dont see thousands of destitute grads from those schools on the streets? I have no empirical data that cal west and tjsl students dont do horrible in life. But i will not kock down those schools programs. I stand by my statement that if you go to cal west and tjsl, you are not doomed a miserable career.

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USD without thinking, assuming you care about jobs.

At USD, you can (with effort) get a job on the east coast, interview on campus at all of the top SD/OC firms (plus a lot of LA firms mixed in).  At Cal Western, if you're in the top 10% you're assured of nothing.  Top 10% at USD writes its own ticket locally, and can move you nationally (again with work).

Also, there's a good chance that USD, over the next 20 or so years, will become a top 30 school.  (It's faculty is already in the top 25)  It's in a very desirable location, it's the major player in a huge area (Mexico border to UCLA), etc.  What is holding it down is student rankings which are based on, as you mentioned, a poor career services.  The new dean has fired everyone in career services, and the new staff will be complete this summer.  Whether or not this changes anything remains to be seen, but at least it's movement and recognition of the problem.

Since I see you are currently at USD, are you saying that Cal Western grads haven't got a chance in the SD market?  Since that's where I'm going next year I find that really disappointing...

well thats not true. i dont see thousands of destitute cal west and tjsl grads on the streets. I think the point is, rankings aside, usd is the most estblished school in sd when it comes to law. i would bet most ppl would automatically think of usd if you said you were going to law school in sd (that is if they live in sd, i have relatives in la and sf who only know that the uc's, usc and stanford have law schools. i believe this is very representative of ppl's preceptions when it comes ot ca law schools). having a recognized name in your region brings a level of confidence to your future employers and will open up more doors.

this has been said many times though, job prospects are  all dependent on how well you do in school, what innate charm you have to open your own doors, etc, etc. i would say the one advantage of usd in san diego is name recognition, after that you're pretty much on your own. usd is no harvard or even ucla where the name blinds ppl into submission. its all in the work you put in. that being said, i doubt cal western would have the name cache to travel to even oc or la.

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