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General Off-Topic Board / Re: What Philosophers Must I Read?
« on: April 01, 2006, 11:32:27 PM »
I think the OP was talking more about "pure" philosophy than political philosophy.

Hobbes, Burke, Strauss, Rousseau, etc. are all mainly important as political philosophers.

The actual glaring omission in this thread is Hegel.  You won't understand Nietzsche without confronting Hegel.  You won't understand Hegel without confronting Kant.  You won't understand Kant without confronting Hume.  You won't understand Hume without confronting Descartes.  You won't understand Descartes without confronting Aristotle and Augustine.  You won't understand Aristotle without confronting Plato.  You won't understand Plato without understanding Parmenides, Heraclitus, and Sophocles.  

Philosophy is a 3000 year conversation.  You can't expect to jump in at the final chapter and pick up on all the details.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: What Philosophers Must I Read?
« on: April 01, 2006, 11:21:50 PM »
Very few philosophers are worth reading directly if you just want to have a passing familiarity with their ideas. On the other hand, the following are probably the works without reading which no Western person could reasonably claim to be educated:

Aristotle
Plato
Hume
Kant
Nietzsche
Wittgenstein

As a compromise, I suggest devouring the relevant volumes of the OUP series "A Very Short Introduction"


I am trying to hold back.
Trying.
And failing.  And I am a big fan of all these thinkers.

But if you try to read most ANY of them "just to have a passing familiarity with their ideas" you will (1) not succeed and (2) waste a lot of time.  Especially Wittgenstein.  Unless the problems of western philosophy, the problems of Platonic dualism, are YOUR problems that torture your heart in an internalized and passionate way, it will just not make sense to you.

Aristotle is an important thinker but we have none of his actual writings.  What we have are essentially class notes.  And they read like it.  Makes me look like a good writer.

Here are some titles that are reasonably accessible, passibly well written and should not overwhelm you.

Plato - The Symposium.  About love and beauty, very well-written, great characters.
Augustine - Confessions.
Descartes - Meditations.
Locke - Second Treatise.
Doestoevsky - Notes from Underground.
Marx - Theses of Feurbach.  Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844.
J. Dewey - Human Nature and Conduct.  The Public and its Problems.
William James - The Will to Believe.
Foucault - Power/Knowledge (collected interviews)

I keep trying to think of a way around Nietzsche but there just isn't one is there.  Maybe read Darwin first?  Maybe Kierkegaard Fear and Trembling.  

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Some women make a lot of money in porn, but most don't. Also, as an earlier poster pointed out, many of the women involved have incest, rape, etc., in their backgrounds. I think alcohol and drug abuse are pretty common, too.

And?

You mean why is it relevant? It has an influence on their supposed power in the industry.

This is certainly not limited to the porn industry.  I read or heard the other day that worldwide one in five women will be the victim of a rape or attempted rape.  That is just disgusting and is a symptom of how screwed up the world is.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Words that we should all use more often
« on: April 01, 2006, 10:57:15 PM »
Although if you take the highway west out of your hometown and drive over the mountains and through the woods it eventually ends outside my hometown!

So we're almost like neighbors and stuff. 

Now I'm almost speechless and my eyes are tearing up. ;D

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Words that we should all use more often
« on: April 01, 2006, 10:51:28 PM »
Well, I guess we've determined once again that I have NFC what I'm talking about .... :D

And I'm not embarrassed to say I had to mapquest that!  And I grew up near there.

OK Red your rural street cred is now at an all time high.  And Oxford is a hell of an achievement.  I am almost speechless.  Almost.

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News Discussion / Re: RUSS FEINGOLD IS A FINE AMERICAN
« on: April 01, 2006, 10:46:51 PM »
Um, what good will winning elections do if you don't stand for anything?

kickbacks.

Good point. 

And here I thought it was about making the world a better more beautiful, loving and just place.....

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News Discussion / Re: RUSS FEINGOLD IS A FINE AMERICAN
« on: April 01, 2006, 10:44:45 PM »
You think he'll represent the Democratic ticket?

nope, probably not.  too independent minded.

Sadly I don't think he has much of a shot. That said, I think we should nominate him and run with him like he's a sure thing. To hell with competing for the presidency, the Democratic party needs to show the American people that it still stands for something.

I couldn't disagree more, politics is not about standing for something, its about staying in office.  I could care less if the democrats stand for "something" whatever that something is, lets just win some elections, what good will standing for something do?  Honestly, even if you won by standing for something in an election, it wouldn't help you make tough decisions once you were office.  Democrats should run Wesley Clark or antoehr democrat who could win an election.

Um, what good will winning elections do if you don't stand for anything?

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Words that we should all use more often
« on: April 01, 2006, 10:43:48 PM »
Hmm, maybe a new thread "Auntie Red's life story her ownself as told by her fawning LSD admirers" is called for here???

no, you cannot start a thread where you tell red's life story.

Sir, Yes sir!

The beauty of military life - no questions, only orders.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Words that we should all use more often
« on: April 01, 2006, 10:39:15 PM »
Hmm, maybe a new thread "Auntie Red's life story her ownself as told by her fawning LSD admirers" is called for here???

I'm not buying totally rural Red.  Too big a jump to Oxford.  If you are from Puget Sound I am guessing it is from someplace that ends in island.  Bainbridge and Vashion sound more likely than Mercer.  The trustafarian save the world attitude meet the blue collar accoutrements.

P.S. - I'm from the most liberal mill city with a ferry dock in case you were curious.  Probably no.

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News Discussion / Re: RUSS FEINGOLD IS A FINE AMERICAN
« on: April 01, 2006, 10:02:50 PM »
Also James and Jimmy Dean though.

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